팔정도: 바른 생각과 욕구,욕망의 포기Ep. 35, 조셉(영어강의 54분)

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Joseph Goldstein – Insight Hour – Ep. 35 – The Eightfold Path(팔정도): Right Thought(정사유) and Renunciation(욕구, 욕망의 포기)

Continuing his series on the Four Noble Truths, Joseph begins a discussion of the second step on the noble Eightfold Path, Right Thought, and offers a fresh look at the practice of renunciation.Joseph discusses the role of Right Thought in our practice. He looks at the how freedom from attachment is integral to Right Thought and the power of renunciation in doing so.Catch up with part one: https://beherenownetwork.com/joseph-g...Show NotesHabits of Thought (Opening) – In the original Pali language, the second step of Right Thought is known as sammà samkappa. This term can also be translated as right intention, right resolve, or right aspiration. The importance of this step is highlighted by the understanding of the great power that habit has over our lives.“The more we repeat certain patterns of thought, the more probable it is that they will arise again.”Into Practice (4:00) – How do we come to practice Right Thought? All of the elements that make up the first step of the Eightfold Path, Right View, that lead to the cultivation of thoughts and intentions that result in worldly happiness and ultimate freedom.Joseph explains how each step along the Eightfold Path builds upon each other, how we put this step into practice and what the Buddha had to say about the role of renunciation.“Following in the Buddha’s footsteps, we can cultivate in ourselves an increasingly clear discernment of the kinds of thoughts that are arising in our mind.”Renouncing Addiction (11:00) – Renunciation is a very loaded term in the West, often associated with repression of desires with an austere lifestyle. Joseph offers a fresh perspective; instead of austerity, renunciation is the experience of non-addiction. We have become addicted not only to the gratification of our wants but also addicted to the mental habit of wanting itself.“What is so beguiling about addictions is that in the moment they do give us pleasure. But then we grasp at them, feel the lack when they inevitably change and we reach again. This becomes a cycle until we are totally immersed in the wanting mind.”Finding Ease in Non-Attachment (23:00) – Addiction is powerful, but it is possible to relate to desire in an altogether different way; with much greater freedom. Joseph discusses how through practice we develop a wise restraint. This allows us to settle back and allow desires to arise and pass without feeling the compulsion to act upon them. This gives us a glimpse of the Third Noble Truth, the ending of craving.“There is greater ease in not wanting, than in wanting.”The Value of Renunciation (36:00) – The Buddha often referred to the blessing of renunciation as the cleansing of the mind and heart. Joseph discusses just how apt the term cleansing is and how that is reflected in the lives of practicing monks. He teaches ways that laypeople can still find ways to practice renunciation in our lives and experience the contentment it brings.The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157...Eight Mindful Steps to Happiness: Walking the Buddha's Path by Bhante Henepola Gunaratana: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/086...This podcast from Insight Hour is just one of many podcasts on the Be Here Now Network. For more from the archive visit: https://beherenownetwork.com/insighthour================Make sure not to miss a single video podcast from Be Here Now Network! Click here to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1l...================Be Here Now NetworkPodcasts, Courses, and Articles to help you live a Life in Balance.Heart Centered wisdom from Ram Dass, Jack Kornfield, Sharon Salzberg, Krishna Das + many more!Get a Free Guided Meditation from Sharon Salzberg when you first sign up at: https://beherenownetwork.com/================Follow Be Here Now Network:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeHereNowNet...Twitter: https://twitter.com/beherenownetInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/beherenowne...

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댓글 (2021. 5. 28)

Like a good therapist a great teacher seeks to put him/herself out of business. Perhaps this is why Joseph's talks receive so few questions or comments. His clarity is so simple and clear that it requires nothing extra. With no self there is no one to ask or answer. Renunciation is becoming more of a habit and I am very thankful.

strange picture for a Buddhist video! ...and a wonderful talk - thank you....love what you say re what the Buddha said on renunciation - so vital for contentment and really seeing more of the path...

I am so extremely grateful for this and all of Joseph's talks! but this one I resonated with particularly strongly. Doesn't our culture encourage an addictive relationship with so many things?? I sometimes pause the teaching to reflect. He asked us to think about our daily habits, and how easily could we let them go. Among the many thoughts/activities to which I have a rather compulsive/addictive relationship, one is a restlessness-driven need to find a reason to leave the house in my car, and go on some "necessary" errand. Today is my birthday, and I've been SOO looking forward to going to the bakery for 1 piece of chocolate cake. Guess what? we have a blizzard today, and I will not get to go! I am laughing uproariously at this juxtaposition the Dharma has given me today! so this talk was so helpful on a very deep level, and also on this level of being driven by our daily habits. _/\_

Love his talk, but, what about the picture or proto we see? Isnt a little bit radical?

Joseph Campbell on Buddha confronting Mara

What’s not to like? They are suggestions on cultivating a healthier mind and healthier relationships.

There's capturing drunkenness in your words. Every iota of what you say is freedom.

How about having a family?

Perfect place to practice the 4 brahmaviharas. family members and family issues can be approached with metta, Karuna, mudita and upekkha to give joy and peace to everyone

My major reason for all my renunciations has been ..... The negative aspect of each thing I have renounced is ..... Distraction(放逸방일). I renounced video games and porn first. Then, around 9 months later renounced sex, masturbation, checking out girls (looking them up and down, little glances, etc), and all mental sexual fantasies. ... A month later I renounced all videos, shows, movies, designed specifically for entertainment, and finally, today, completed a shorter month long music renunciation. Why renounce all that? Why have I followed through and upheld my renunciations? Distraction. Slowly, over time, I realized that when I interacted with these things, my progress slowed tremendously. I didn't like that. So I stopped. That was the negative aspect of not only sexual desire, but all the other things too, which helped me really commit to the renunciations.

I heard that the Buddha was reluctant at having his realization formulated and written down. He refused to do so, but was eventually persuaded to.This put s a very different light on Buddhism, I think. Organizing one person's religious experience into doctrine and dogma, is perhaps a mistake.Evolution is happening. And spiritual/mind/brain/philosophical evolving is governed by this as well as the physical.Striving is likely a mistake, as Buddha himself proved.Advaita Vedanta has no doctrine. It has no dogma. It asks that you take it's ideas and teachings, and apply them to your own experience, and then to make up for yourself whether or not they are true.

to each his own. To critic a dharma in favor of your own? Does that make you happy? Why are you here?

Why on earth would the Buddha say striving is a Mistake when he himself strived for many eons of lifetimes to evolve His flow of consciousness from that of an ordinary being to a Supreme Being. He only said striving to attain Nibbana through extreme ascetic practices of self torchering the physical body is fruitless. He first strived to become virtuous, (restraint in body and speech) and advised his followers to do so. He next taught to strive to keep the mind free from the kilesas/ mental impurities by various good practices. He then advises to gain mastery in being able to arouse only positive karmic thought patterns . " samma vaayama" or right effort at developing a continuous flow of skilful thoughts ( kusala chetana) is the sixth ability in the Noble Eight fold Path. It's a costly mistake to get fooled on the Path. There were , are and will be many such misleading threads which lead even the genuine practitioners astray.