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[7th Constitutional Court impeachment hearing]​ Lee Sang-min, "an electric power cut-off, a water cut-off note, see you on the round table in the presidential office."

(LEAD) Ex-interior minister denies trying to cut off power, water to media outlets after martial law declaration

이상민 전 행전안전부 장관, 계엄령 선포 후 언론 매체 단정 단수 중단 시도 부인

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Lee Haye-ah Politics 14:15 February 11, 2025 Yonhap News

(ATTN: UPDATES with testimony by former interior minister, Yoon's remarks; CHANGES headline; ADDS photos)
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By Lee Haye-ah
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SEOUL, Feb. 11 (Yonhap) -- Former Interior Minister Lee Sang-min denied Tuesday that he ordered cutting off power and water to major media outlets during the short-lived imposition of martial law or received such instructions from President Yoon Suk Yeol.
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Lee made the remarks as a witness during the seventh formal hearing of Yoon's impeachment trial at the Constitutional Court, referring to allegations in the prosecution's indictment of Yoon that the president ordered him around midnight on Dec. 3 to cut off power and water to Hankyoreh, the Kyunghyang Shinmun, MBC and JTBC -- left-leaning media outlets critical of Yoon -- as well as opinion polling agency Flower Research.
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Former Interior Minister Lee Sang-min (C) appears at the Constitutional Court in Seoul on Feb. 11, 2025, to attend the seventh hearing of President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment trial over his short-lived imposition of martial law in December. (Pool photo) (Yonhap)
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"Such measures were completely excluded from the martial law (decree) so I don't think there was reason to give such instructions," Lee said.
"It was a known fact that the interior minister has no authority to command the police or the firefighting agency, and the president knew that better than anyone, so he would not have given me such form of instructions," he added.
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Lee did acknowledge however that he saw a note on Yoon's desk headed with the word "National Fire Agency chief" and listing the names of the media outlets and the polling agency.
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"I saw a few notes from afar inside the president's office and one of them mentioned the fire agency cutting off power and water," he said.
The minister also testified that he tried to stop Yoon from declaring martial law when he was called to the presidential office on the night of Dec. 3.
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"After 11 Cabinet members had gathered, President Yoon reentered wearing a suit and we discouraged the president," he said. "President Yoon, however, said he is aware of its economic and diplomatic impact, and the political burden it would be, but that he had thought carefully and that a president's situation awareness and sense of crisis and responsibility were completely different from those of a Cabinet member."
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President Yoon Suk Yeol (L) talks with his lawyer, Bae Bo-yoon, as he attends the seventh hearing of his impeachment trial at the Constitutional Court in Seoul on Feb. 11, 2025, over his short-lived imposition of martial law in December. (Pool photo) (Yonhap)
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Prior to Lee's testimony, Yoon asked the bench for a chance to speak.
He voiced his opposition to the Constitutional Court using as evidence the prosecution's reports on interrogations of key suspects in the martial law case, saying the testimonies are inconsistent because they were given to multiple investigation agencies.
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Acting court President Moon Hyung-bae said he would raise the issue with the other justices.
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The trial has entered its final stretch with only one more scheduled hearing on Thursday, though the court could still designate additional sessions.
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National Security Adviser Shin Won-sik is set to testify later Tuesday, along with Baek Jong-wook, former third deputy director of the National Intelligence Service, and Kim Yong-bin, secretary-general of the National Election Commission.
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The Constitutional Court's eight justices -- (from L to R, rear) Chung Kye-sun, Kim Bok-hyeong, Jung Jung-mi, Lee Mi-son, Moon Hyung-bae, Kim Hyung-du, Cheong Hyung-sik and Cho Han-chang -- are seated in their courtroom in Seoul on Feb. 11, 2025, to attend the seventh hearing of President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment trial over his short-lived imposition of martial law in December. (Pool photo) (Yonhap)
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Shin was present at a Cabinet meeting held in the early hours of Dec. 4 to lift the martial law decree after it was voted down by the National Assembly.
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Baek and Kim are expected to be questioned about Yoon's claims of election fraud, which he has said was one of the reasons for declaring martial law.
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Yoon was impeached by the National Assembly in December on charges of inciting an insurrection through his short-lived imposition of martial law.
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The Constitutional Court has been reviewing whether to uphold the impeachment and remove him from office or dismiss the impeachment and reinstate him.
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Yoon is currently being held at a detention center ahead of a separate criminal trial on the insurrection charges.
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hague@yna.co.kr
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이상민 '언론사 단전·단수' 부인…"지시하지도 받지도 않아"

송고시간2025-02-11 12:02 황윤기 기자 임지우 기자 이민영 기자 연합뉴스

"대통령실 종이쪽지에 적힌 건 봤다…소방에 국민 안전 챙기라 당부"

이상민 전 행정안전부 장관, 탄핵심판 7차 변론 출석

(서울=연합뉴스) 이상민 전 행정안전부 장관이 11일 서울 종로구 헌법재판소에서 열린 윤석열 대통령 탄핵심판 7차 변론에 출석하고 있다. 2025.2.11 [사진공동취재단] photo@yna.co.kr

(서울=연합뉴스) 황윤기 임지우 이민영 기자 = 이상민 전 행정안전부 장관은 12·3 비상계엄 당시 언론사의 전기·물 공급을 끊으려 한 적이 없고, 이와 관련해 지시받은 적도 없다고 헌법재판소에서 증언했다.

이 전 장관은 11일 오전 윤석열 대통령 탄핵심판의 7차 변론에 증인으로 나와 '대통령이나 국방부 장관으로부터 언론사 단전·단수 조치를 지시받은 적 있느냐'는 윤 대통령 측 질문에 "전혀 없다"고 답했다.

검찰이 작성한 윤 대통령 공소장에는 윤 대통령이 이 전 장관에게 '24:00경 한겨레신문, 경향신문, MBC, JTBC, 여론조사 꽃을 봉쇄하고 소방청을 통해 단전, 단수를 하라'는 내용이 적힌 문건을 보여줬다고 적혀 있는데, 사실과 다르다는 취지다.

이 전 장관은 "이번 비상계엄에서 그런 조치는 아예 배제돼서 지시할 이유가 없었다고 생각한다"며 "행안부 장관에게 경찰이나 소방을 지휘할 권한이 없다는 건 다 알려진 상황이었고, 대통령께서 누구보다 그 점을 잘 알고 있어서 저에게 그런 유형의 지시를 내릴 일이 없었을 것"이라고 했다.

다만 이 전 장관은 "대통령실(집무실)에서 종이쪽지 몇 개를 멀리서 본 게 있는데, 그 쪽지 중에 소방청 단전, 단수, 이런 내용이 적혀 있었다"고 설명했다.

해당 문건은 윤 대통령 집무실 책상 위에 놓여 있었고, 머리말에는 '소방청장'이라는 단어가 있었으며 MBC·JTBC·한겨레·여론조사 꽃의 이름도 있었다는 게 이 전 장관의 증언이다. 그는 "(윤 대통령에게 계엄 선포를) 만류하러 들어간 자리에서 짧게 1∼2분 머무를 때 잠깐 얼핏 보게 됐다"고 했다.

이 전 장관은 사무실에 돌아와 소방청장에게 "만일의 경우를 대비해 국민의 안전에 대해 최우선으로, 그리고 꼼꼼히 챙겨달라는 취지의 당부를 했다"며 "언론에서 보도되는 것처럼 제가 소방청장에게 단전·단수를 지시한 것이 아니다"라고 부연했다.

그는 "만약 대통령께서 저에게 어떤 지시를 했다면 비상계엄이라는 급박한 상황에서 최대한 신속하게 소방청장에게 전달하지, 대통령의 지시를 무려 2시간 넘게 뭉개고 있다가 소방청장에게 전화하는 기회에 전달하지는 않았을 것"이라고 했다.

이 전 장관은 '윤 대통령이나 김용현 전 국방부 장관으로부터 비상계엄과 관련한 지시 사항이 적힌 쪽지를 받은 적이 있느냐'는 질문에 "그런 사실도 전혀 없다"며 "대통령이 (문건을) 주면 줬지, (공소장 표현처럼) 보여줬다는 건 상식적으로 납득이 안 간다"고 했다.

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