그 선수가 있을때와 없을때의 차이는??

[농구는디트로이트!!!!!]

Off. = Points scored per 100 possessions
Def. = Points allowed per 100 possession
G/L = Gain/Loss (positive means the team is better with the player than without)

The list of players who are currently out for teams with winning records is long. The players below are listed in order from most missed to least missed.

Editor's note: Statistics through Tuesday, March 10.

Jameer Nelson, Magic

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
42	32	10	112.2	102.9
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
21	14	7	110.5	107.0
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
+1.7	-4.2	+5.9
The buzz: The Magic's defense has suffered more than its offense without Nelson. Both have improved since Rafer Alston came aboard though. With Alston, the offensive rating is 111.0 and the defensive rating is 106.8, so Skip has had a positive effect. However, Alston hasn't been able to replace Nelson on the defensive end.

Amar'e Stoudemire, Suns

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
53	30	23	113.1	110.8
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
11	4	7	118.0	119.8
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-4.9	-8.9	+4.0
The buzz: Amar'e Stoudemire is not a good defender, but these numbers seem to say that he is. That's because his eye injury came two games after the Suns made their coaching change. And under Alvin Gentry, they've played faster and more efficient offensively, but much worse defensively. They were a bad defensive team already. Now, they're just terrible.

Ben Wallace, Cavaliers

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
53	42	11	114.4	103.2
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
10	8	2	107.8	100.7
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
+6.5	+2.5	+4.0
The buzz: Raise your hand if you thought the Cavs' offense would suffer without Wallace. Now, put your hand down, because youre lying.

Andrew Bynum, Lakers

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
46	37	9	115.8	106.4
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
17	13	4	114.3	108.5
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
+1.5	-2.1	+3.5
The buzz: For all of these guys, how good they are is not the only factor here. How bad their replacements are also plays a part. And Bynum's absence has put Josh Powell in the rotation (15.5 minutes per game since Feb. 1). The Lakers' starting lineup is still solid without Bynum, but their depth takes a hit.

Kevin Garnett, Celtics

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
53	41	12	111.8	101.6
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
11	8	3	116.5	108.7
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-4.7	-7.2	+2.4
The buzz: It's no shock that the Celtics have declined (a lot) defensively without Garnett. What is a little surprising is how sharp they've been offensively without him. Glen Davis and Kendrick Perkins have both been efficient, while Ray Allen and Paul Pierce have taken turns putting up big numbers.

Manu Ginobili, Spurs

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
38	29	9	111.7	106.3
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
25	14	11	109.1	105.2
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-1.6	-2.1	+0.4
The buzz: Ginobili's absence has created more minutes for Bruce Bowen, so the Spurs' defense actually benefits. But the positive effect on the 'D' is clearly outweighed by the negative effect on San Antonio's offense. As we saw in last years playoffs, the Spurs need Manu.

Greg Oden, Blazers

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
46	28	18	114.4	109.7
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
17	12	5	116.0	111.7
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-1.6	-2.1	+0.4
The buzz: Oden has averaged less than 23 minutes per game when he's played, so the effect of his absence is small compared to the others we're listing. And it's no surprise that he's a negative offensively and a positive defensively.

Peja Stojakovic, Hornets

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
53	33	20	111.8	108.7
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
9	6	3	107.4	103.7
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
+4.4	+4.9	-0.5
The buzz: If you were to guess (without looking at the numbers) at how the Hornets play without Peja, you would probably say exactly what the numbers say. They're worse offensively and better defensively. Overall, the effect of his absence is minimal, and New Orleans has a solid trio of wings (Rasual Butler, James Posey and Julian Wright) to fill in.

Josh Howard, Mavericks

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
45	27	18	110.8	109.7
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
19	12	7	112.2	108.8
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-1.4	+0.8	-2.2
The buzz: The Mavs have been better on both sides of the ball in games where Howard hasnt played. Rick Carlisle has a history of keeping his teams competitive despite injuries and/or suspensions and hes done well in inserting various guys (11 different players have started games for the Mavs this season) into the lineup.

Tracy McGrady, Rockets

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
35	20	15	108.1	106.3
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
30	22	8	111.9	104.6
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-3.7	+1.7	-5.4
The buzz: The Rockets are a better team without Tracy McGrady ... this year. When looking at these numbers, we need to acknowledge that McGrady was never in shape this season. If he was healthy, the numbers probably wouldn't be so bad. And when he was playing early in the season, the Rockets were often missing Shane Battier and/or Ron Artest.

Kenyon Martin, Nuggets

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
55	33	22	109.8	108.3
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
10	7	3	112.0	104.6
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-2.1	+3.8	-5.9
The buzz: Martin returned from a three-game absence in Monday's loss to the Rockets, but with his back still bothering him, he didn't play in the fourth quarter and is questionable for Wednesday's game against the Thunder. Martin is considered to be a terrific defender, but the Nuggets have actually been better defensively in the 10 games he didn't play this year.

Allen Iverson, Pistons

WITH
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
51	23	28	106.4	108.7
WITHOUT
G	W	L	Off.	Def.
9	7	2	116.5	108.7
DIFFERENCE
Off.	Def.	G/L
-10.1	0.0	-10.1
The buzz: First, note that the first two games of the season, when Chauncey Billups was still with the Pistons, weren't included in the calculations. The Pistons' nine games without Allen Iverson make for a small sample size. Over the course of a season, Detroit wouldn't be able to maintain that 116.5 offensive rating. All that aside, the numbers are still telling. Clearly, the Pistons offensive balance is disrupted when Iverson is in uniform. This was a very efficient offensive team in the Flip Saunders years, with five guys who could shoot and were willing to share the ball. Those days are back now, but will probably be gone again when Iverson returns from his back issues. Interestingly, the Pistons were a much better team defensively when Richard Hamilton was out (102.2) than when he has played (109.7). Both Hamilton's and Iverson's absences have been positive overall for Detroit. The Pistons are 17-26 when both play and 13-4 (not including the two games with Billups) when only one plays.

 

 

 

[농구는디트로이트!!!!!]

아이버슨,,,

[Third Eye]

킁, 티맥 부재시 공격, 수비 모두 더 좋아졌네요;

[카멜로의 전설 33점]

어쩔수없죠...제대로 움직이질 못했으니..일반 식스맨보다도 실력이 떨어졌으니까요...부상회복하면 어떤팀도 티맥을 얕볼순없죠...지난 10년간 티맥이 보여준게 얼마나 많았는데요....???티맥이 건강히 돌아왔으면 하는 바람이네요

[All Under the Suns]

올시즌 티맥은 어떤 변명도 없다고 봅니다. 그냥 푹쉬고 컨디션 올려서 실력으로 보여주는 방법뿐...

[키드가 되고싶어요~~^^;;]

티맥의 경우는 부상으로 정상실력이 아님에도 출전을 감행했고, 그 시간 역시 짧지 않았기에 알게 모르게 팀에 악영향을 끼쳤다고 생각되네요

[Ｊosh Ｓmith]

티맥과 아이버슨이....

[oakley]

티맥은 현재 건강상태로는 어쩔수 없는 짐이군요...ㅜㅜ

[[LAL]Score]

넬슨은 진짜 뼈아프다고 밖에 말 못하겠습니다.

[muzzle]

그 선수가 뛴 경기와 안뛴경기에서의 차이군요. 하지만 상대한 팀이라던가 자기 팀내 부상 문제 같은 것도 있고 피닉스의 경우 감독교체 문제도 있고 하니 이보다는 그 선수가 뛴 경기에서 코트에 있을 때와 없을 때의 차이를 비교해보는게 더 정확하지 않을까 싶습니다. 물론 이 경우 벤치 선수가 누구냐에 따라 큰 영향을 받겠죠

[All Under the Suns]

사실 어떻게 따져도 얼마나 그선수가 팀에 기인했는지 아닌지를 판단하는건 불가능에 가깝지 않을까 합니다(통계적 추정은 가능하겟죠) 그럼에도 불구하고 이 자료는 개인적으론 상당히 의미있는 자료라고 보여지네요

[마이클 조던.]

이것과 상관없이 샤크가 한물갔다고 느낀게 0607시즌까지만 해도 샤크가 뛰었을때 승률이 상당히 괜찮았는데, 이제는 스텟은 좋아도 더이상 팀이 승리하지못하더군요.

[VV 아이쿠야]

티맥..ㅠ.ㅠ