몇번이나 언급된 SHUNT얘기

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주의: 원래대로라면 카드 의견 게시판이나 덱게시판에 올린 제 홍단덱에 대한 답변으로

올려야 되는 글입니다만, 예전에도 몇차례 위의 카드들에 대한 얘기가 있었기에

확실히 해두자는 의미로 여기에 올립니다. 글이 게시판 성격에 맞지 않다고 생각되시면

이동시켜주세요. >.<

문제는 바로 이겁니다. 션트/스워브로 상대방의 카운터 주문을 카운터칠수 있느냐죠.

위 두 카드로 카운터 주문을 카운터하는 이론은 다음과 같습니다.

1) 뭔가의 주문을 쓴다.

2) 상대방이 그 주문을 타겟으로 카운터 주문을 쓴다.

3) 션트/스워브를 사용, 상대방의 카운터 주문이 션트/스워브를 타겟하게 만든다.

4) 션트/스워브가 무사히 해결되어 카운터 주문의 타겟이 바뀌게 된다.

5) 카운터 주문이 해결되려 하지만 이미 대상이었던 션트/스워브는 해결되었기 때문에 타겟을 잃고 카운터된다.

6) 1)의 주문이 무사히 해결된다.

좀 복잡하죠? 그래서 몇몇 분들이 이 플레이가 불가능하다고 믿고있습니다.

어떤 분은 룰 텍스트까지 직접 복사해오셔서 위의 방식이 안된다고 얘기해주시더군요.

결론부터 내리자면 위의 플레이는 가능합니다.

위저드가 된다고 얘기했거든요.

아래의 글은 매직닷컴에 있는 질문게시판 'Ask Wizards' 2008년 10월 답변글 중 일부를 발췌한겁니다.

October 24, 2008 – Magic Rules Corner

Q: Swerve was easily the card I was looking forward to most in Shards. But I have a question about the card itself. What exactly can you play Swerve on? For instance, if your opponent plays an Unmake can you play Swerve and change the target to anything on the field? By that I mean can you take the Unmake and change the target to, let's say, a land and then nullify the spell? For that matter can you Swerve a Counterspell?
–Zak, Lawrence, KS, USA

A: From the Magic Rules Corner:

Swerve's text is clean, simple, and in some ways quite confusing. Let's look at what spells it can target, what spells it can't, and what new targets you are and aren't allowed to choose.

Swerve can target any spell that has a single target, but it can't target any other spells. That means that Unmake, Cancel, Cremate, Blightning, Cruel Edict, and Pacifism, among many other spells in Magic, are all legal targets while they're on the stack. Unmake targets a single creature, Cancel targets a single spell, Cremate targets a single card in a graveyard, Blightning targets a single player, Cruel Edict targets a single opponent (not the same as player), and Pacifism, when it's on the stack, targets the creature it's going to enchant. (After it's in play, Pacifism doesn't target anything.)

If a spell targets "up to" some number of targets, it's a legal target for Swerve only if the number of targets chosen is one.

If more than one target was chosen when a spell was played, or if no targets were chosen, Swerve can't target the spell. That means that Swerve can't target Violent Ultimatum, Agony Warp, Wrath of God, or Mind Spring, among many other spells. It doesn't matter how many legal targets the spell currently has. If you're not sure whether a spell targets, look for the word "target" or the word "enchant." If it doesn't have either of those words, it doesn't have any targets.

If the spell has multiple targets and all but one of them have become illegal, you still can't target the spell with Swerve. For instance, suppose your opponent played Violent Ultimatum targeting two creatures and a land, and you played Tortoise Formation, giving both creatures shroud. Both creatures are illegal targets and won't be destroyed, but Violent Ultimatum still isn't "a spell with a single target" and thus can't be targeted by Swerve.

If a spell targets one thing multiple times, you still can't target it with Swerve. A player who plays Agony Warp, for example, can target two different creatures with the -3/-0 and -0/-3 effects, or he or she can target the same creature with both. Either way, multiple targets were chosen, so Agony Warp is never a legal target for Swerve.

Getting to your second question, let's look at what actually happens when Swerve resolves. You can't change the spell's target to an illegal target, but you have to change the spell's target if you can. You can still play Swerve even if the spell doesn't have any other legal targets, if you want to for some reason.

So you can't change the target of Unmake to a land (or a creature with shroud, or one with protection from white or black, or one that's an illegal target for any other reason). You can, however, change the target of Terror to an indestructible creature such as Spearbreaker Behemoth—it's still a legal target, even though it won't actually be destroyed.

In the same vein, you can change the target of Blightning to the player who played it, but you can't do likewise with Cruel Edict. Cruel Edict must target one of its controller's opponents. In a multiplayer game, you could change Cruel Edict's target to a different opponent of the player who played it, but Cruel Edict's controller is never a legal target for it. The controller of the spell doesn't change when you change its targets, so even if you change the target of a spell like Cremate, the player who played Cremate will still draw a card if Cremate resolves.

One last weird example: Suppose you play a spell, and your opponent plays Cancel targeting it. Those are the only two spells on the stack. You then play Swerve targeting the Cancel. You have to change the target of Cancel if you can, but you can't change it so that Cancel targets itself—a spell on the stack is never its own legal target. You can, however, change Cancel's target so that it targets Swerve. Swerve then finishes resolving and leaves the stack. When Cancel tries to resolve, its target is no longer legal, so it's countered on resolution.

Note also that Swerve itself doesn't target the spell's new target, so it could change Giant Growth's target so that it targets a creature with protection from red, such as Paladin en-Vec.

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The Magic Rules Corner is a weekly feature dedicated to answering your rules questions. For more help with Magic rules, check out the rules page and the Rules Q&A Forum.

긴 문장이지만 이 글에서 볼 부분은 간단해요.

'When Cancel tries to resolve, its target is no longer leagal, so it's countered on resolution.'

(캔슬이 해결되려 할 때, 타겟은 더 이상 적합하지 않게 되며 그로 인해 무효화 된다)

......이제 알겠죠?

뭐, 어차피 저같은 변태매덕이나 쓰는 카드니 너무 신경안쓰셔도 되요.

랄까, 관심가져주셔서 대단히 고맙습니다(넙죽).

[1PIECE]

캬 진짜 궁금했는데 이제 말이 좀 돼네요. 상당이 복잡하네요 ㅎㅎ 좋은 정보 ㄳ

[dtst]

이 거 예전 아이스에이지 디플렉션 때부터 가능한 플레이로 받아들여지던 것 아니었나요?

[오리형]

명쾌하네요.. 이로서 더이상 션트에 대한 논쟁은 없겠죠? 선행자가 길을 닦아 놓으면 뒤에 오는사란들이 편합니다 :)

[레이지드]

플레이를 선언하여 스펠로 간주되더라도 스택에 없는 스펠을 타겟으로 잡을수는 없을텐데요... 다만 이 경우는 Shunt나 Swerve는 플레이할때 타겟으로 필요한게 '타겟 스펠'뿐이니 합당한거겠죠.

[남경근]

미스다이레션!!