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눈팅하다가 하나 올립니다. 해외포럼보다가 사람들이 관심이 있게보던 전술인데
기본 442 포메이션에서 활동할때 262 된다고 하면서 효력발휘하는 전술이네요
전술 받아보시면 아시겠지만 훈련파일과 설명파일 그리고 수많은 택틱 파일이 있는데
설명이 조금 긴관계로 간단하게만 해석해서 올리겠습니다.^^
공격하는 스샷이라네요
아스날 파브레가스의 패싱옵션..=_=
수비시 수비수의 움직임 + 풀백의 공격가담
수비할때 보이는 모습.ㅡ.,ㅡ
수비수와 풀백의 움직임 수비할때^^
미드필더의 수비시 움직임
442의 기본형
그럼 해석본을 살짝 올려놓을께요
단 아셔야할것은 이것은 원문보다 매우 간단하게 해서 올립니다. 받아보시면 꽤 길어요..-ㅅ-
김혁님의 말씀대로 귀차니즘의 본좌를 걷고 있어서..-ㅅ- ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
죄송합니다.-ㅅ-
The 2-6-2 Framework. Tactics set and descriptions for the flat 4-4-2.
A quick how and when to for the tactic files. The 2-6-2 framework is a system on how to set up the mentality of the team, together with some key instructions on how to support a possession based playing style with a tight defense. The following tatics have been designed, tested and optimized for the team I am using at the moment (Arsenal). It uses short passing throughout and a slower build-up, which compliments the framework very well.
But: To make it work for other teams it MUST be tweaked according to the individuel qualities of the team, the players and your desired playing style. This is not a download and win set-up. You might want to transform it into a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-3 mentality or use different instructions for the team and players. Just keep one thing in mind: A direct or even long passing style is somewhat counterproductive to the possession and passing based framework. So you might want to stay in the mixed area...
기본 442 인데 어떻게 공격하느냐에 따라서 262 처럼 변한다는..-ㅅ- 결국에 팀에 따라서 352 내지 343 으로 변형해서 많은 효과를 바랄수있습니다. (포럼에서는 절대 전술이 아닌관계로 수정이 불가피하다고 하네요)
Basic tactics:
_442att
Attacking tactic with medium tempo, a high defensive line and offside trap ticked. For all games where opposition is not too defensive minded or home games. Is designed to constantly put pressure on the opposition. The high def line reduces their space and time. The mid tempo build up keeps possession with quick attacking moves. So it’s mainly for home games vs. weaker teams, being clear favorites. It can fall down against very defensively playing oppositions, creating many chances but no goals and sometimes concedes from mean counters. Then a reduction in team mentality or a switch to Control is advised. Attack can also be used for away games against mid-table teams playing normal style or against weaker teams in Continental cups. Team mentality is 16, can be reduced to 15. The def line can be set to higher normal if push up is too risky or the team's quality won't allow it.
홈경기와 약팀을 상대로 추천하는 전술입니다. 수비라인은 좀 끓어 올린편이고 빠른공격을 추구하지만, 수비적인팀에게는 골을 못넣는 경우가 있답니다. (참고로 직접써본결과 당연히 이길것같은 팀에게만 쓰세요 그렇지 않은경우에는 점유율 높고 슈팅많지만 골이 안들어가요..-ㅅ-)
_442ctrl
Control tactic with wider play, medium to medium high def line and almost slow tempo. Wingers have more creativity. A more possession friendly variety of the attack setup, making the field big and creating depth in the play. It draws the opposition out and offers them less chances for counters. It’s designed for home games vs. stronger teams or home and away games vs. very deep lying and/or defensive opponents. If it's not creating enough chances, increase team mentality (14) to lower attacking (15) and/or set wingers to cross from byline. DCs can be set to tight marking. For lower quality teams to man-marking.
윙의 넓이를 조금 더 옆으로 넓히고 윙어의 창조성을 중심으로 하는 전술입니다. 그런데 이것은 윙어가 좋지 않은경우에는 비추 합니다. 개인적으로 써보니 어설픈 윙어놓으면 공격도 수비도 아닌 이도저도 아닌 전술이 되어버리더군요..-ㅅ- 하지만 윙어가 좋은경우에는 공격 루트가 조금 더 다양하게 나타납니다^^
_442count
Counter attacking tactic with normal to narrow width, deeper def line and upper normal tempo. Mainly an away tactic when the opposition is somewhat stronger and/or using an attacking setup. The team will sit back more, relying on dangerous through balls and try to score from counters. The fullbacks stay deeper and won’t push up often. Width is reduced. It can also be used at home against teams being 3 to 5 places below in the league table or when the opponent is using an attacking setup, i.e. with long farrows. In case the opposition is lying deep, it’s not recommended as there are no attacks to counter. Then better switch to Control or tick off the counter attack box and raise width.
Team mentality is 15, can be reduced to 14 against tougher opponents.
약팀들에게 강추하는 전술입니다. 카운터 전술인데 수비라인도 밑으로 내려갔고 템포는 중간에서 약간 빠른편 그리고 득점은 카운터에 의해서 하는 편입니다. 풀백의 경우에는 오버래핑을 자주 안하는 경향이 있죵~ 넓이도 많이 줄였고...
그리고 이것은 강팀내지 어웨이 경기에 추천합니다. 개인적으로 이 전술로 챔피언십 리그에서 재미 톡톡히 봤네요^^
_442posse
Possession tactic with lower tempo medium time-wasting and def line and lower medium tempo. This is designed for holding the ball in a more defensive setup, although still trying to score with quick attacks. It uses reduced FwR and RwB and lets the wide players sit deeper. The medium def line rises the chance of the opposition running into offside positions. This is used against strong(er) opponents or very attacking minded fierce rivals, mostly away. At home it can help to slow down play as it uses more time wasting (but is not sufficient against the AI 4-2-4). When playing a quality team, this tactic is rarely used. Team mentality is 13, sometimes 14. MCd can get a barrow to DMC position. DCs are set to tight marking - can be ticked off if they don't have enough quality. Then, setting DCs to man-marking might also be advised.
템포를 느리게하는 포제션(소유) 공격타입인데요 조금 더 수비적인 경향을 띠고서 공격시에는 좀 더 빠르게 요구하도록 설정했다더군요 대신 윙빽들이 좀 더 수비라인 가깝게 쳐진다고 하네요 상대가 강하거나 라이벌일경우에 추천한데요
_442defend
A defensive tactic with low creative freedom, lower normal width, (lower) medium def line and time wasting and a cross from deep set-up. FwR and RwB are set to rarely for all defenders. Although the mentality is on (upper) defensive, the FCs stay on highly attacking. Counter attack is ticked, random setting is to run on ball. Closing-down is mostly own half, except MCd, wingers and TM to pressure the opponent.
Please note: This tactic represents the basic idea of how to use a defensive approach in the 2-6-2 framework. It has not been tested sufficiently yet! The 2-6-2 frame is more of an attacking minded set-up and beats opponents with possession based play. It is actually not designed to focus on a defensive style. That might be the reason why the idea of simply reducing the team mentality to set up a defensive tactic fell down in the first place. The team sat way too deep and invited the opponent to exploit spaces. Changing the closing-down and reducing the attacking instructions for the defenders should help. So this should be the way to go - but further testing is advised.
말그대로 제목대로 수비 전술입니다. 수비 전술을 보시면 아주 수비적인데요 대부분 수비하다가 역습만 노리는 경향이 있어요 글쓴이는 이 전술을 조금 실험 이 안된 전술이라고 비추 라고 하네요 저도 한번 써봤지만, 그닥 좋은 효과는 보지 못했습니다. (울브스 vs 아스날 - 결과: 0:2 패 -_-)
Special weapons and tactics:
_442shut
Shut-up shop tactic used only (!) in the last 10 minutes of the game, when the AI uses gung-ho formations and mentality like the 4-2-4 or the 4-4-2 with long farrows. Nearly all forward runs and runs with ball are set to rarely. No farrows, but barrows for both MCs. Mentality is defensive, reduced for the FCs, target man supply run onto ball, counter attack ticked, closing-down always except DCs, tight marking for all players except FCs, hard tackling for FBs. Slow tempo, high time-wasting, narrow width. A lower medium defensive line can put opponents in offside positions. If wanted, put in another MCd for the MCa to have another defensive minded player at the back. This is designed to lock up the own area as tightly as possible and maybe exploit the gung-ho mentality with a quick counter.
이것은 오직 후반 종료 10분전에만 사용하시기 바랍니다. 극강 수비 전술로써 상대편 걸어 잠구기 전술이죠. 실질적으로 1:0 아슬 아슬하게 리드할경우 10분남겨놓고 바꾸면 엄청난 수비력을 보여주더군요 -_- 후덜덜 모드입니다. -ㅅ-
_442press
Variation of the Attacking tactic if the AI is playing a slow short passing game with high time wasting, trying to keep possession and locking up their own area. Uses very high closing down, hard tackling and def line with offside trap ticked to constantly put pressure on the midfield. Strikers also use very high closing-down and start pressing in the opponent's area. Can be enforced with team instructions set to tight marking and closing-down always for the opponent's defenders and goalkeeper. This set-up is also not recommended for a whole game, but for shorter interceptions or the last 20 minutes.
약간 다른 공격 성향을 지닌 공격 전술인데요, 시간보내기와 짧은 패스웍을 많이 보이는 상대라면 끝나기 20분전에 사용하는 전술로써 막판 뒤집기 전술이라고나할까요? (이것보면 슬램덩크 시절 산왕대 북산의 산왕 수비가 생각나더군요,-ㅅ-)
_442deep
A more attacking variation of the Control tactic with a deeper def line and less width. The midfielders close-down often. This can be very successful for better teams playing away against a team of equal or slightly better quality (examples: Arsenal at ManU, continental cup games). The backline is really tight, while the midfield tries to get the balls earlier. Low closing-down for the strikers allows them to exploit holes. This can be used from the start or in half-time when the other set-ups don't seem to work or the team is behind.
위에 컨트롤 전술의 변형인데요 수비가 좀더 아래로 쳐저있고 좌우 넓이를 더 좁힌 전술입니다. 상대가 자신보다 조금 우월하거나 아니면 비슷할경우 어웨이경기에 상당히 도움이 되더군요^^
Possible tweaks:
In case the defensive performance is not as expected or the teams's quality doesn't allow for some settings, here are some key changes that might help.
- rise closing down for FBs
- lower DCs mentality 1 notch
- use man-marking for the DCs
- put MCd on tight marking or(!) man-marking when playing tough opponent
- reduce creative freedom for MCd
- give MCd an barrow to DMC position
- put DMC on same mentality as DCs (-> 3-5-2 frame)
- raise closing-down for MCa and MCd (watch out for fouls)
- reduce tempo
- put team passing more to short side
- reduce FwR and/or RwB for FBs and MCd
시합중에 변경가능한 애기지만 귀찮아서 넘어갑니다...(참고로 저도 한번도 안바꿧습니다. 매우 귀찮앙용~ -_-)
Training:
The training set consists of pre-season trainings for defense and offense and schedules for every position, including the keeper with sweeper attributes. It supports a good fitness level for the whole team with technical training for the respective positions. All schedules are workload-optimized.
The aim here was not to create "the" perfect schedule, but to tailor training to the playing style and demands of the 2-6-2 framework. The schedules will not produce quick shifts in attributes but constant progress over time and a well-balanced training level without too many injuries. Feel free to further optimize or tweak according to your players (i.e. set piece takers). Or simply use the training you feel comfortable with - using it is not imperative.
훈련 전술도 포함되어있는데요 전 그냥 기존에 범준님꺼을 사용햇습니다. 사용해보셔도 괜찮을것 같아요. 최대한 부상을 적게 입게 할라고 했던 훈련 전술이라네요.
Opposition instructions:
A very imprtant part of the 2-6-2 framework with the 4-4-2 is the use of opposition instructions. Especially for the opposition's attacking players repectively your defenders. They should be used in every game, to avoid any nasty suprises. Here they are:
For opposing strikers: Tight marking, Closing down always.
If playing against a really fast and creative FC only Tight marking.
For opposing wingers: Tight marking, Closing down always, Show on weaker foot.
For central AM and MCa: Tight marking, Closing down always
If he is identitfied as danger man and the MCd/DCs have good tackling stats Hard tackling.
For DMC or FB: If he is named danger man Closing down always, if strong even Tight marking.
For DC: If playing a high pressing game Tight marking and Closing down always.
For GK: Closing down always, if playing high pressing plus Tight marking.
이것이 약간 귀찮은 부분이였는데 상대에 따라서 대응전략을 다르게 해줘야 하더군요
스트라이커: 근접마킹, 압박 자주.
만약 상대 공격수가 매우 빠르거나 창조성이 강하면 근접 마킹만 해주세요
윙어들: 근접 마킹, 압박 자주 그리고 약한발 유도
모든 미들포지션류: 근접 마킹, 압박 자주
만약 경기전에 위험한 인물로 지목되었고, 우리 팀의 수미와 수비수가 태클이 좋다면 태클도 거칠게!
수미와 윙백의 경우: 만약 위험인물이면 압박 자주, 그리고 만약 후덜덜 선수면 근점 까지 해주세요
수비수: 점유율을 높이는 전략을 사용하신다면 근접 마킹과 압박 자주.
골기퍼: 근접 마킹 만약 높은 점유율 경기때는 압박 자주까지.
And now: good luck and have fun.
Cheers, Zagallo.
마지막으로 자갈로가 다들 잘하래요..-ㅅ-
혹시 원문 포럼을 더 자세히 보시고 싶으신분이 있으시면
http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1519717/m/5912056483
여기 url이 있습니다.
바쁜관계로 눈팅하다가 찔려서 전술 하나 올려봤어요^^
일일히 해석 할 시간이 없어서 댓글로 궁금하신거 있으시면 해석해드릴께요
단, 모든 문장 해서 다 해석해달라고 하시면 힘들어용..ㅡㅜ (마눌님이 화내심...)
개인적인 소견은 한시즌끝나고 평득 2.8 평실 0.6 정도 했네요 하지만 챔피언십 리그였고, 선수하나정도는 후덜덜 선수가 있었으니 정확한것은 아니라고 봐야겠어요.
부상과 대표팀 차출이 아니라면 더 높은 평득을 요구 할수 있었는데, 중간에 많이 빠져나가서 2군애들 대리고 한경기도 꽤 되네요. 전체적으로는 상황에 따라서 생각보다 꽤 안정적이더군요. 물론 외국포럼방에 나와있는것을 더 자세히 보면 더 잘할것 같지만 귀찮아서..(보시면 본문이 2개로 그리고 왕 길어요.ㅋㅋㅋ)
그럼 수고하시고^^ 재미있게 사용하세용~
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첫댓글 이거 PART2인지..예전에도 자갈로님꺼 써본적이 있어섬..ㅡㅅㅡ
네 파트2 맞습니다.
전술이 너무 많아서 뭘 써야할지...
대략 돌려보시면 3~4개 돌아가면서 쓰게 되더라고요..^^
설명대로 해보니 좋네요. 특히, 442 count 전술은 정말 좋고요. 약팀인 저로써는 442count > 442shut > 442attact > 442deep=442posse 순으로 많이 써진듯 하고요. 윙이 안좋아서 442ctrl은 안써봤고, 442 press는 신중하게 써야 할 것 같습니다. 역전 가끔 나오지만 대량실점할 때도 많더군요. 442defend는 안써봤습니다.
저도 press 는 잘 사용안합니다. 약팀상대로 잘못사용하면 대박나면 대박이지만 재수없으면 바로 실점 하는 -ㅅ-..... defend같은경우에는 자갈로님도 테스트 안된거라고 하더군요, 저도 중위권팀이라 커운터 셧 그리고 딥 순서로 돌리는 중이긴해요^^ 좋다니 다행이네요^^
삭제된 댓글 입니다.
음 실질적으로는 기본 442입니다. 자갈로님이 현대에서 많이 사용되는 윙백 442전술을 자신만의 기본 442로 바꾸어서 사용했다는거에요^^ 다운받으셔서 보시면 금방아실텐데^^