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VATICANUS: The Word & its Meaning from which is derived the word Vatican as in Vatican City the Imperial Seat of the Roman Caesars.
VATICAN is derived from two Latin words Vatic-anus.
VATIC-ANUS
VATIC- "Characteristic of a prophet; oracular" From Latin: vts, seer -ANUS "The opening at the lower end of the alimentary canal through which solid waste is eliminated from the body" From Latin: nus, ring, anus
VATIC- ANUS = VATICANUS = VATICAN
The original meaning of VATICANUS read as follows:
The serpent of sorcery, black magic and the occult.
Not surprising the "vatican of Rome" has snakes wrapped around the columns of their unholy pagan "altar".
By the way why would the Messiah to the nation of Israel put it's "headquarters" in Rome? Wouldn't He have put it in Jerusalem? And don't even try to tell me Peter is buried there. Have you read the Book of Acts?
No,no, no. Vaticanus was the spirit who presided over the birth cry of the newborn.
The opinion of Marlene is a common evangelical attack of the Roman Catholic Church, but misses any scientific basis; the name Vatican has nothing to do with catholic believe, it simple point to the Mount Vatican; the name of this mountain comes from the Latin word 'vates', which means something like 'prophet', (gen.pluralis of 'vatum'?). Mount of the prophets = mons vaticanus
I believe Marlene is right on, vaticanus refers to sorcerers and not prophets unless you perceive prophets as sorcerers. XD
if it doesn't matter what "vaticanus" means, if it's "just" the name of a place, that name is a pagan name. so if the meaning of the word is not important, if it's just the way people called the place before christian faith became official, then why keep it? why not call it "mons christianus"? but if it wasn't only kept couse people got used to it, then the reasons for it's survival are two: either the pagan practices associated with it, or the meaning of the word. the roman church maintained a series of ancient roman names and titles: the Saint John Lateran church, wich is the cathedral of Rome, gets it's name from the Lateran family that donated the building to Constantine the great; one of the titles of the pope, "pontifex maximus" , comes from the emperors of Rome, wich were also pagan priests; ecc.
now tell me, if paganism has nothing to do with maintaing these names and titles, then isn't the meaning of the words significative?
so what does the name "vatican" stand for?
i read eachcomments and i am agree and disagree with some comments for me vatican is the den of the devil those so called holy men have only one purpose rule this world under one evil power .the black pope is the earthly ruler of this kingdoom and his master is leviathan,my GOD bless us all and protect us in the name of his son the christ JESUS threw the power of his holy spirit against the ennemy of humanity .selah
i have seen the cofin of pope lies around the clouds and it sound s to every person that he has raisen again... i was alone then when i saw it ...
i saw him in the middle of ot.. telling me that he will come to destroyed the world and to take blood from innocent people.. across the wold.. jordanbrolin@yahoo.com... you can contact me ... for anything...pope jonh pope is alive and he staying in africa .. a city which is not know in a africa.. but i no it cuz i have seen him there cooking and praying fro hie friends for their next meeting to overcome everything on this planet
The word VATICAN comes from the 2 words
VATI and CAN meaning THE DIVINING DRAGON
The bible clearly states that the new world order will be a religio-political system which the dragon (Satan) gave its power to, and the WHOLE world will wander after this beast (kingdom). It's sad to know that the papacy the roman catholic church will introduce will be this indeed. Deep study into the history of the catholic church will show its origins from Greece/ Medo-Persia and Babylonian worship.. simple put an ancient pagan religion. The “Onslaught Series” goes extremely deep into this topic.
and babylonian worship.. simple put an ancient pagon religion.
Vaticanus:
Hill of divination.
What is it with the anti-Catholicism in the answers? Have you people nothing else to rail against? Catholics are Christians just like any other, it's just that some differ on certain points of what to believe.So what?
One scholarly gentleman thinks the Vatican means "house of Cain."
Vati = House
Can - Cain
In French it is pronounced "Vaticain"
I'm trying to verify this. The writer of the Book Rulers Of Evil stated that his research led to the discovery that the mark of Cain was an eight point asterisk or two crosses, one on top of the other:
www.saintpetersbasilica.org/.../StPetersSquare-GoogleEarth.jpg
Jojo and Marlene have the right idea.
But whatever the word Vatican means does not matter but serves as a another clue to decipher the the church of the mother of all harlots and she will burn. Rejoice and praise Jesus.
Vatican is an Etruscan (Turkish )Word same as Ötüken
meaning SUN GOD.
The word "Vaticanus" is either Latin or Etruscan. The word is etymologically associated with the word "Vatic" which is a form of "Vates." "Vates" referred to a (pagan) priest who was involved in divinition (or predictions). From the word Vatican we also get the word "vaticinate" which means to divine, predict, or foretell. Ancient priests of Rome have also been referred to as "augurs." These priests of divination used a staff called an auguur's staff or divining rod. This short staff, which was used by the Etruscans, was adopted by the bishops of Rome who to indicate that they were perpetuating the office of the ancient pagan priesthood.
I thing the bottom line to all of this discussion is that if you have any Catholic friends and you care about their salvation you should pass along this information to them. By the way I've recently discovered some of this information in a book entitled "Billy Graham and his Friend" by Cathy Burns I believe. The book also indicates that the United Nations building has a meditation room that all of the world's leader go to 'meditate' and get 'inspiration'. It is called by those in the 'in' crowd the 'holiest of holies'. It is entirely 'occultic' in design and nature.
Thank you, P. Hunter, for a scholarly response.
Truth hurts... But it can set us free.. Claims about the Roman Catholic Churc are supported with evidences.. So,let us carefully scrutinize it in the light of the Scriptures.. "TO THE LAW AND TO TE TESTIMONY"
Vatican city is named after the hill on which it sits, called Mons Vaticanus. The word Vaticanus is of uncertain etymology, and is likely Etruscan in origin. No reliable etymoloyg relates the divinatory implication. Separating the word Vatican into two words is poor etymology unless the root of the words is somehow certain. In this case, it's not. The hill was named long before the Roman church was placed there, and an etymological study of the word would necessarily have to take into account WHEN that name was applied to that area.
vatican
means HILL and the reason of setting {the Church} up in Rome. that was the center of the world at the time. (All roads lead to Rome).
Why do you think the Christains were sacraficed in the arenas? because that was where Peter and paul were doing most of the conversions; A
Vatican =
Vatis(fake prophet) + can(snake).
It means, the Snake's fake prophet and the snake is a Biblical symbol for Satan.
So,
Vatican = Satan!
We need to pray for our country and the whole world
especially our family and friends
(time is running out, the Lord is about to return real soon
I am still not satisfied with the ACTUAL MEANING OF THE WORD Vatican.
I think i will e-mail Jordanmaxwell.com , since he has been doing in-depth research into the occult (or hidden) long before most of us were born.
Even if his answer is right on, i will continue my research from varied other sources. Sounds to me like answer will be an amalgamation of all and not just the ONE.
P.S Just when you think you found the answer , it be best to dive again.
I would like to agree with all of the above but where are your sources for the meaning of the word Vatican?
When I teach people the above meanings I would like to point to a book and say this is what it means in Latin or what have you. Websites are good resources if they display where did they get there answers from but if it doesnt display that then I am back at the same question. email: Businesshurricane@gmail.com
Vatican means "seat of the serpent." Why did pope Paul the first die? He was poisoned. Why? He was going to expose the SATANIC corruption of the Vatican and the popes and the catholic church. Nimrod's wife is not to be worshipped, nor the "queen of heaven", nor the serpent, nor the sun. Now go to ANY picture of the inside of St.Pauls cathedral.... you'll find ALL OF THOSE ABOMINATIONS.
The word vaticam in sanscrit means garden .
Ryan is absolutely correct.
No one here has yet explained how can means snake or dragon. My understanding is that dagon is draco or draconis and snake is serpens, vipera or anguis. I like "Hunters" answer the best so far...
"The word "Vaticanus" is either Latin or Etruscan. The word is etymologically associated with the word "Vatic" which is a form of "Vates." "Vates" referred to a (pagan) priest who was involved in divinition (or predictions). From the word Vatican we also get the word "vaticinate" which means to divine, predict, or foretell. Ancient priests of Rome have also been referred to as "augurs." These priests of divination used a staff called an auguur's staff or divining rod. This short staff, which was used by the Etruscans, was adopted by the bishops of Rome who to indicate that they were perpetuating the office of the ancient pagan priesthood."
Anus also means "old hag" so Vaticanus is sort of like a Delphian oracle. If you want to know what the church means in any of its symbols you must look at the whole presentation. Remember that many traditions went into the making of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
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As you can see below, the word Vatican means to prophesy, as in the way paganism prophesied, with ranting and raving, talking wildly. It means nothing different from what we see in the New Age Charismatic movement with its speaking in glossalalia (speaking in unintelligible tongues), then interpreting what was said as though “God” sent the message. Thus we can see that what has crept into Christianity over the past 40 years is the same thing that crept in 2,000 years ago and resulted in the Church of Rome, the Vatican.
Vāt•ēs or vat•is –is m seer, prophet; bard, poet || f prophetess; poetess
Vāticān•us –a –um adj Vatican: mons (or collis) Vaticanus hill in Rome on the right bank of the Tiber
Vāticināti•ō – ōnis f prophesying, soothsaying, prophecy
Vāticiniāt•or – ōris m prophet, seer
Vāticin•ium –(i)ī n prophecy
Vāticin•or •ārī –ātus sum tr to foretell, prophesy; to keep harping on || intr to prophesy; to rant and rave, talk wildly
(Copy/pasted from biblelight.net/vatican.htm.)
What we are seeing today is Satan’s moving of Protestantism toward Catholicism, and that reconciled union toward the rest of the world’s pagan religions. One day soon they will be all united under Satan’s global umbrella of spiritualism. And then the whole world, including the secular world, will be swept into a horrible and bitter possession by the power of the devil.
“And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
The word Vaticanus as translates today Vatican means a place or hill of divination. The source of all divination not divine.Please are not against Catholics as persons but what they believe. Transforming pagan Rome "Mystery Babylon" into a mother whole of religions doesn't make her perfect. As a formal Catholic.I couldn't find burning of incense,candles, holy water, Mary's statues, rosary and all them paganism way of worship in the book of act which is the apostolic order of Christianity.please read the bible yourselves, enough of Latin and priest deceit.
The word Vaticanus as translates today Vatican means a place or hill of divination. The source of all divination not divine.Please are not against Catholics as persons but what they believe. Transforming pagan Rome "Mystery Babylon" into a mother whole of religions doesn't make her perfect. As a formal Catholic.I couldn't find burning of incense,candles, holy water, Mary's statues, rosary and all them paganism way of worship in the book of act which is the apostolic order of Christianity.please read the bible yourselves, enough of Latin and priest deceit.
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In the Vatican, the "holy" language is Latin. In the ancient Roman religion of (the pagan) Pantheon temple, the language was Latin.
The word "Catholic" means "universal." Likewise, the word "pan" means "universal" or "all-inclusive." The word "pantheon" is a compound word comprised of the word "pan" and "theon," which is a form of "theos." Theos means "god." Together, the words refer to the worship of "all god(s)."
The word "cardinal" is from the word "cardin" and "cardo," which refer to a "hinge." The priests asociated with Janus, the Latin god of the door, were sometimes called "cardinals." Today, a select group of Latin high priests commissioned by the Vatican are called "cardinals."
The pagans of ancient Rome (and elsewhere) recognized their gods as "patron" gods with jurisdictions over particular localities and powers over certain elements. Temples, altars, shrines, and statues to patron gods were used in ancient Rome and elsewhere. The Vatican has "patron" saints with their own temples, altars, shrines, and statues.
And lastly, the high priest of the ancient pagan Etruscan and later Latin priesthood was known as the "Pontifex Maximus" (or Supreme Pontiff). The high priest in the Vatican today is called the (Sumpreme) Pontiff.
The ancient Latin people dedicated days and months to their gods and the gods they adopted from other people. The current western calendar, which is a form of the Roman Catholic Church's Gregorian Calendar still contains the names of pagan gods on it. Why would a Christian, which is what Gregory said to have been, place pagan deities on a "Christian" calendar? Was he attracting pagans with this move, or continuing to show that the Latin Church was a continuation of the ancient religions they claimed to be replacing?
Those seeking to understand the significance of the word "vatican" and/or its connection to Christianity or pre-Christian religion should consider the names associated with the Vatican along with the symbols and practices of the religion whose capital is Vatican City, the City of Seven Hills.
VATICAN = VATICANUS http://weblogs. asp.net /dneimke/archive/2005/04/02/396780.aspx
catholics, vatican, etc..... is a disgrace to The Doctrine of Christ and should be dismantled and according to scripture it will because nothing supercedes The Word of GOD and those pedophiles should be incarcerated.
Serious researchers might like to peruse St. Augustine's The City of God, Book IV, Chapters 11 and 21, where the Roman god Vaticanus is mentioned. He is a god who apparently initiates the birthcry in newborn infants. One could make fascinating conjectures as to the Vatican being the symbol of the birth of the church via the infant Jesus. Or something similar along those lines.
Want to know what Vatican means go to the You Video Part 2 of an ex jesuit priest Alberto Rivera . His full interuptation is "City of Divination"
He sure has alot of powerful truths revealed about the Vatican.....
http://weblogs.asp.net/dneimke/archive/2005/04/02/396780.aspx
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주 예수 그리스도 안에서 아주 작은자라도 뽀빠이(pope) 보담도 더 크게 여기실 주 우리 하나님 아버지를 드높이 송축합니다. 감사 합니다.