When did Catholic Church start from ?

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When did Catholic Church start from ?

Catholics claim: Catholic Church was built upon Peter ( Cepha) in 33AD by Jesus Christ

Evangelical Christians believe : Biblical Church was built upon Christ in 32AD by Jesus Christ.

My claim : Catholic Church was started in 251AD by Cornelius and the Apostates

The Apostates who betrayed Lord Jesus Christ due to the persecution by Emperor Decius and worshipped the god Jupiter. After the death of Emperor Decius in the battle of Abritus, Moesia ( Bulgaria), the persecution was stopped, then the apostates returned to the Church. Novatian ordained by Elder Fabian, asked them to repent by public penance and to get re-baptized. But Cornelius said the Rebaptism is unnecessary and welcomed the Apostates without the Repentance and the Rebaptism. So, the Schism started from October 251AD.

Emperor Decius seized the power by Coup against Emperor Philip the Arab in September 249AD and persecuted Christians for about 18 months from late 249AD, then was killed in the swamp at Abrittus, Bulgaria in June 251AD. After his death, Trebonianus Gallus and Hostilian ( son of Decius) became co-emperors and they rescinded the decrees of persecuting Christians.

The persecution under Emperor Decius: by Wikipedia

Large numbers of Christians performed the sacrifices as required, so much so that authorities at Carthage were overwhelmed by the numbers seeking a certificate and were forced to issue a notice requesting people to come back the next day.[1] Many other Christians also went into hiding, especially in Egypt, Africa and Anatolia, including Dionisius of Alexandria and Cyprianus of Carthage.

In the year 250, in an attempt to promote traditional Roman pietas and unify the Empire, the Emperor Decian decreed that everyone, (excepting the Jews), must sacrifice and burn incense to the gods in the presence of a magistrate, and obtain a signed document witnessed by the officials attesting to this. The libellus was the statement of the individual of his/her loyalty to the Empire, the fact that they had rendered the required sacrifice, plus a request for the officials to countersign as witnesses.[2] <<< Libellus >>> was a certificate that the person completed the sacrifice to Jupiter god, so that he or she may travel and practice many business with the office.

The effects of the edict on Christian communities, many of which had until then lived peacefully and undisturbed, were traumatic. Many lapsed in their faith, and their readmission into the Christian community was opposed by the schismatic Novatian.[6] By 251, efforts to enforce the edict had died down, and although short-lived, the "Decian persecution" became in the collective memory of the church an episode of monstrous tyranny.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decian_persecution

After the persecution of Christians under Decius ended, many Apostates called LAPSI returned to the churches. Then Novatian requested them to repent by the public penance and to be rebaptized. As it was humiliating to the apostates, they went to Cornelius, another Elder appointed by Fabian, the martyr. Cornelius told them they don’t have to get the rebaptism. So, majority of the LAPSI went to Cornelius and minority joined Novatian and his gatherings.

This took place in October 251AD. Cornelius and the Apostates called LAPSI attacked Novatians vehemently by calling him the Anti-Pope. But both Novatian and Cornelius were ordained by Fabian and had the same beliefs on the doctrinal issues. But as for the acceptance of the LAPSI’s, both disagreed each other. Novatian believed many of the Apostates may have never been born again from the beginning. So, he wanted to check the faith of the LAPSI’s first, then rebaptize them as they committed so much serious Apostasy.

On the other hand, Cornelius wanted to forgive the sinners of the apostasy generously and considered the returning itself as the repentance.

But the schism took place any way in October 251AD, and both of Cornelius and Novatian martyred later.

Even if the schism didn’t cause very loud noise but it was a great starting point where Catholics and Evangelical Believers are split.

60 years later same situation took place after the persecution of Diocletian Emperor ended in 311AD.

Catholics refused the rebaptism of the apostates while Donatus demanded the rebaptism of the apostates returning from the apostasy. So, the Donatist schism took place in 311AD, between Catholics and Donatists.

When Emperor Constantine approved Christians in 313AD, he approved Catholics, not the Donatists who were like the Baptists of modern days.

Donatists were more dominant in Northern Africa than Catholics.

In the meantime Catholics announced the Anathema ( Curse) to the Sabbath Keepers from the Council of Laodicean in 363-364AD, which means there were many Sabbath keepers by that time.

Milevi Council of Catholics issued the Anathema to the Christians opposing to Infant Baptism, in 416AD, which means there were many Believers opposing to the Infant Baptism by that time.

There were Christian groups outside of Catholics called Donatists, Vaudois, Paulicians, Nestorians, Bogomils, Albigenses, Lollards, Waldensians, Petro-de-Brussyan, Hussites, Anabaptists before 1517, Martin Luther.

As for Waldensians, they were not founded by Peter Waldo in in 1180 or so, but the interrogation by the inquisitor Honorius showed that one woman confessed her church started before Constantine, the Vaudois became Waldensians. Catholics claim Albigenses believed 2 gods, which is untrue.

Broadbent confirm‎ that Albigenses had the same belief as Catholics on the fundamental doctrines, but the practices were different, refusing Infant Baptism, Idolatry, Mary worship, Prayer to Mary and Saints, refusing Papacy. 

Many scholars believe the Baptists have no founder because their founder was Jesus Christ. Martin Luther learned Gospel from Staupitz and some Waldensians. Nestorians were successful since Tang dynasty of China until the Early Ming Dynasty ( 600-1400AD), in China, Manchuria, Mongols, Korea, and Japan even though they were rejected by Catholics in Europe. Nestorius was very much misunderstood, which is verified by Bazaar Heracleides discovered in 1895 and published by Oxford in 1920. The obvious fact is that they opposed to the idol making, bowing down to the idols, rejecting calling Mary the mother of God and praying to the dead Mary, Papacy, Infant Baptism etc. Apparently, the Holy Spirit remembers all the history of the true Christians who refused Catholicism and Catholic Idolatry and goddess worship!

The claim by Catholics that Catholic church was built in 33AD by Jesus Christ cannot be sustained by the following questions.

If you believe Apostle Peter was the first Pope of Rome, could you show me any of his writings he was the pope of Rome?

Could you show me any proof that Apostle Paul or other Apostles addressed Peter as the Pope in any Epistles of theirs?

Could you show me any proof that Peter or John prayed to Mary, dead saints or Angels?

Or the proof that Jesus or Peter or John or Paul taught the Believers to pray to them after death?

 1) Nobody in the Bible prayed to Mary after her death

2) Nobody called Mary, mother of God, in the Bible

3) Nobody told Immaculate Conception of Mary though Paul and John outlived her

4) Nobody called Peter Pope while Peter called himself Elder equal to other elders. ( 1 Peter 5:1)

5) Infant Baptism is rejected by Acts 8:37 which Catholic Bibles deleted intentionally

6) Catholic Hierarchy system by Letter of Ignatius is opposed to Bible teachings as John and Peter were Elders, while Ignatius (Pseudonym) claims Bishop above John, which is a forgery by Pseudonym Ignatius in Eleventh Century AD. 

7) Confession of sins to Human Priests is groundless as it should be done to God (1 John 1:9), though we exchange the testimonies on the equal and mutual bases (James 5:16)

VIII) Catholic Mass is to offer the sacrifice by lifting the Wafer and the Chalice for the forgiveness of sins because Catholics don't believe all the sins were already forgiven by the precious Blood of Jesus on the Cross. Christians give thanks to God and Christ Jesus for the works already done on the Cross! This is a huge difference and opposite! ( Hebrews 10:18)

9) Nobody taught the manufacturing of the statues and bowing down to the statues of Mary, which is prohibited by Exodus 20:4, Deut 4:16,23, 25, 5:8, 9:12.

10) Nobody called the church of Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Laodicea, Philippi, A Catholic Church!

11) Nobody taught the Inquisition and Torture for the cult.

12) Nobody sold Indulgence

13) Robber on the Cross went to Paradise directly (Luke 23:43) without going to Purgatory (Catechism 1030-31).

14) Nobody taught Rosary ( Mt 6:7)

15) Nobody taught Brown Scapular

16) No Extreme Unction.

Conclusion: Catholic church was established in October 251AD by the Christian Apostates led by Cornelius under the guidance of the Satan, for the Idolatry and Goddess Worship, Sorcery, Witchcraft, Papacy and Clergy System, Inquisition to torture and kill Christians, Selling Indulgence and Purgatory.

Dear Catholics,

You must get out of the Harlot Church Catholics!

Eliyahu EJ

August 3 2026