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Were there any people other than Jesus who have not sinned?
Catholics are very smart to twist the Bible!
Romans 5:14 <<< Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin in the likeness of Adam’s transgression.>>>> Only Adam sinned in the likeness of Adam's transgression, but the rest of all the people of the world have sinned by other types of sins! Read 5:12 <<<< Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned >>>>> Sin entered the world by one man, Adam, then Death by Sin, then Death passed upon all men including Mary!!!!, for that, all have sinned! Including Mary, excluding Jesus! why? Because Mary wasn't the Biological mother of Jesus!! Why did Mary sin? Because Death passed upon Mary, and the death caused Mary to sin!!!!
Throughout the History, Jesus Christ is the only person who has lived on this world without sin, without committing any sin!
Oct 20, 2026 Eliyahu EJ
Sinful Human Nature of Mary which Jesus didn't inherit.
You must remember these aspects of Mary:
1) Mary couldn't understand what Jesus said ( Luke 2:50)-Ignorance itself is not a sin but prevents the fellowship with God and Jesus
2) Mary couldn't answer the question asked by Jesus ( John 2:4)
3) Mary didn't believe Jesus would be resurrected and therefore she went to the tomb with the spice and ointment ( Luke 24:10, Mark 16:1) Mary Mother of James and Jose (Mt 27:56) is the same Mary in Mt 13:55, nearby James and Jose there.
4) Mary was not among the crowd listening to the sermon by Jesus, to the Word of God.( Mt 12:46-50, Mark 3:31-35)
5) Mary couldn’t sustain herself and required someone to help her living and therefore Jesus assigned her to John because His brothers didn’t believe Him at that time.( John 19:27) How could she help others?
6) This is very much crucial and important aspect of Mary:
Mary attempted to capture Jesus so that she may stop Him from His ministry and therefore Jesus told her and to the crowd <<< Who is my mother?>> Read Mark 3:21, 31-35, Mt 12:46-50
KJV translated < Hoi para auto> as His friends in Mark 3:21, but Hoi Para auto means Those who live together with Him under the same roof, which means Family, and those family went out to capture Him, not because they thought Jesus was mad, but because the neighbors criticized He is mad.
So, in verse 31, they reach the place where Jesus was preaching and told someone that they want to speak to Jesus. Jesus knew their intention even before they started from their home, and therefore He said
<<<<33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother>>>>
7) Jesus disobeyed Mary and completely ignored her, in opposition to the claims by Catholics who say < Jesus will obey His mother all the time, otherwise, He will be in contradiction to His commandment of Honor thy mother> ( CCC 2678-79)
So, Mary attempted to commit the horrendous sin against God by preventing JESUS from preaching the Gospel and Salvation.
VIII) We have never heard that Mary has suffered from great difficulties to preach the Gospel like Paul in 2 Cor 11:23-33.
9) Mary was not the Biological Mother of Jesus but a Surrogate Mother even though Mary delivered baby Jesus and Jesus was born of Mary. John 1:14 says Word became Flesh. If the ovum of Mary became the Flesh of Jesus, it means Flesh became Flesh, which is opposite to John 1:14.
Read Mt 1:20 in Greek as it says Jesus was BORN in Mary as a perfect human being without need to be fertilized with any ovum or with sperm.
10) Hebrews 7:3 says < Both Melchizedek and Son of God had NO mother>
11) Jesus said < Before Abraham was, I AM> ( John 8:58). The brain of Jesus remembered the events with Abraham and that brain must be existing before Mary was born, and was older than Mary was.
Body and Brain of Jesus existed before Mary was born! Even if Jesus was born of Mary!
12) All human race was born from the Earth, but Jesus was born from the Heaven.
1 Cor 15: 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
John 6: 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Jesus came down from Heaven, but Mary came from the Earth. Jesus didn’t inherit anything from the Earth, nothing from Mary!
Mary belongs to Adam's Race, but Jesus belongs to Heaven
1) If God could make Mary sinless by mysterious way, why didn’t God offer the same grace to world and make the whole human race sinless so that Jesus His only Son didn’t have to suffer from the extreme pain and death on the Cross? There was no way to do so as it is proven by the prayers of Jesus on the Cross ( Mt 26:39)
Do you think the brain cells of Jesus resembled 50% Mary and 50% God?
I don't think so.
Eliyahu
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1) Lk 2:50 has nothing to do with Mary being sinless. So using this verse in your response to show that Mary is not similar, shows you don’t know scripture very well. >>>
Bible says <<< 48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 50 And they understood not the saying which he spoke unto them.>>>>> You are denying what the Bible says as usual with Catholics!
The point is that Mary isn’t so much great as Catholics praise as Mother of God!
2) The fact that Mary did not answer. Jesus question has nothing to do with her being sinless. >>>>
Even today, not only Catholics but also most of Protestants cannot answer that question by Jesus. Point is that Mary wasn’t so much great for billions of people to ask her to convey the prayers to God as she cannot understand many things of the world and of God. The answer is that His time of Crucifixion changing the Water into Blood ( Rev 11:6) hadn’t come yet, but the preview of it could be shown as Moses did at the time when he changed the Nile water into blood.
So, Jesus changed the Water into Wine which is the symbol of blood.
3) You have the wrong Mary in these verses. This is “the other Mary,” who was the wife of Clopas, and the sister (in-law) of Mary. She was the mother of James and Joseph, who are the cousins of Jesus.>>>>
Ridiculous excuse. Was the sister of Mary another Mary, then her parents named 2 daughters with the same name Mary? How James and Jose of Mt 27:56 have the same names of James and Jose of 13:55 who are mentioned as Brothers of Jesus? Mary of 27:56 is the mother of James and Jose, Mary of 13:55 is mother of Jesus who has Brothers named James and Jose! Are you stupid not to understand there relationship? Read Psalm 69:8
<<<< 8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.>>>> Do you read Mother’s children? Now will you deny this Messianic Psalm?
Your religion has nothing to do with the prophecy but to manufacture the goddess worship decorated with the name of Mary of the Bible.
4) In these verses, Jesus is saying that the one you does the will of God are his mother and brothers. Mary did the well of God, so of course she was his mother. This first does not say anything about her not being shameless.>>>>
Could you not read the points of what Jesus was saying? There are people who are more blessed than Mary was! Because they are more faithful to hear and keep the Word of God!
Read the verse again: <<< But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.>>> (KJV) <<<
He said, “Even more, those who hear the word of God and keep it are blessed!”>>>>(HCSB) Was Mary attending the sermon preached by Jesus? No! This is why Jesus didn’t show up Himself to Mary His mother but to Mary Magdalene after His Resurrection for the first time.
5) What would not being able to sustain yourself have to do with whether one is sinless or not? This verse has nothing to do with that. I’m the fact that you even mention it shows you don’t know what sin is. >>>>
It is not a direct sin, but if she couldn’t sustain herself, how could she help others without knowing the way to maintain herself? Wasn’t she able to pray to God for the protection of herself and for the living for herself? Then she can help others? Mary wasn’t so great as Catholics admire! Was Mary crushing the Serpent under her feet while she was alive? Was Mary so much powerful but relied on other for sustaining herself? Was it the crushing the head of the serpent?
6) Scripture NEVER says that MARY tried to capture Jesus. Not once does it say that. It does say that his relatives (cousins) tried to “take charge of him.” But that doesn’t include Mary in that verse.
Not a single verse  you referenced refutes in any way the sinlessness of Mary. >>>>
This proves you don’t read my post thoroughly but condemn roughly without understanding my point. I pointed out Mark 3:21 which says His family came out to capture Him because they said He is mad!
Many translation made the mistake there. Therefore I explained as follows:
KJV translated < Hoi para auto> as His friends in Mark 3:21, but Hoi Para auto means Those who live together with Him under the same roof, which means Family, and those family went out to capture Him, not because they thought Jesus was mad, but because the neighbors criticized He is mad.
So, in verse 31, they reach the place where Jesus was preaching and told someone that they want to speak to Jesus. Jesus knew their intention even before they started from their home, and therefore He said
<<<<33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother>>>>
Mary attempted to capture Jesus so that she may stop Him from His ministry and therefore Jesus told her and to the crowd <<< Who is my mother?>> Read Mark 3:21, 31-35, Mt 12:46-50
The family mentioned in Mark 3:21 are the same as Mt 12:46 and Mk 3:31 which are Mary, His Brothers, His Sisters. The whole family didn’t attend the sermon by Jesus but came to the Sermon in order to capture Him. For What? In order to capture Him as verse 3:21 says.
Why? Because the neighboring people criticized He is beside himself.
How did Jesus respond to them? < Who is my mother ?> Repeat << Who is my mother?>
Was it a nice word for honoring Mother of God as Catholics claim? Never!
Why? Because Jesus knew her intention of attempting to capture Him and take Him to her house so that He may not preach any more!
7) When did Jesus disobey and ignore Mary? It does not say anywhere in the Bible that he disobeyed or ignored her that’s something you made up
You forgot point #8 >>>>
Jesus refused the attempts of capturing by Mary! In Mt 12:46-50, Mk 3:31-35!
9) Mary absolutely WAS the biological mother of Jesus. Nothing in Scripture says otherwise. Jesus could not be the King on the throne of David if not a biological ancestor of David. >>>>
Word became Flesh, if the ovum of Mary became Flesh of Jesus, then Flesh became Flesh. Read John 1:14. Jesus was born in the womb of Mary as a perfect human Embryo without need to be fertilized by the Egg of Mary. Read my separate post about this <<< https://www.facebook.com/Eliyahu16/posts/pfbid0uRcTfyQKM7V5p8TKZ6wkpjr5dbKfyyYm9au9x5uoexFA3Nu36PjdGEGFeSVrD2q>>>>
11) Heb 7:3 says that Melchizedek was without father or mother. It does not say that Jesus was without a mother. Again, you misinterpret Scripture.>>>>
You don’t know how to read the Bible. Read Hebrews 7:3 again: Melchizedek had no Father, no Mother, in that aspect, He is similar to Son of God. Are you denying Jesus is the Son of God? If not, read it again. Melchizedek had no Mother, in that aspect He is similar to Son of God, Jesus. Jesus had NO MOTHER! Why did Jesus say < Who is my Mother?( Mt 12:48)
The main problem is that you as usual with Catholics know Jesus only by His Flesh.
Read 2 Cor 5: <<<< 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.>>>>
Jesus worked from Eternity, created the Universe, made Adam in His likeness, met Abraham ( Gen 18:1-11), Led Israel out of Egypt, Led David, then prepared Mary, Born in Mary ( Mt 1:20), Born Out of Mary ( Mt 1:25, Gal 4:4)
12) This has nothing to do with Mary, and in no way disproves her sinlessness.>>>>
All Human Race were born from the Earth but Jesus was born from Heaven ( John 6:38). Jesus is the only person who was born from Heaven throughout the history.
13) God did not make the whole world sinless, because the whole world did not carry God in their womb. Another stupid protestant point, that has nothing to do with the topic.>>
Your Catholic claim that God made Mary sinless before she carried Jesus. Catholics claim Mary was born sinless and lived without sin until she was engaged with Joseph. Then if God could make Mary sinless, why cannot God make the whole nations and people of the world sinless regardless of carrying the baby Jesus, because Jesus ignored the Pregnancy and Sucking the breast of Mary compared to other Believers who listen and keep the word of God ( Luke 11:27-28) Your God is very much grumpy and selfish to change the rule and make the whole world suffer from the agony and troubles by not making the people sinless even though He can make them sinless without need for His Son suffer from the extreme pain on the Cross only if He wanted to!
Read Mt 26:39 <<< 39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.>>>> There was no way for Jesus other than His going to the Cross. Therefore God allowed Him to be crucified on the Cross! You Catholics don’t know this fundamental truth!
2026. 10.22 Eliyahu
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