<p class="cafe-editor-text"><br />/ Live news<br /><br />To 11 million Brazilians, the Earth is flat<br /><br />Issued on: 28/02/2020 - 03:14Modified: 28/02/2020 - 03:11<br /><br />4 min<br /><br />ADVERTISING<br /><br />Sao Paulo (AFP)<br />Sitting by a model of the Earth shaped like a pancake, Brazilian restaurant-owner Ricardo lets out an exaggerated laugh: "'Hahaha!' That's how people react when you tell them the Earth is flat," he says.<br />Ricardo, who declines to give his full name for just that reason, is a 60-something man whose restaurant in Sao Paulo has become a meeting place for people who, like him, reject the notion that the Earth is a sphere.<br /><br />"The only things I know for certain are that I'm going to die someday and that the Earth is flat," he says.<br />It is a curious but remarkably large club: more than 11 million people in Brazil -- seven percent of the population -- believe the Earth is flat, according to polling firm Datafolha.<br />And their influence stretches surprisingly far, in a country currently swept up in the post-truth era and the anti-intellectual, climate-change-skeptic worldview embodied by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro.<br />One of Bolsonaro's most prominent ideologues, the writer and former astrologer Olavo de Carvalho, has said he "cannot refute" Flat-Earth theory.<br />Yet Brazil's Flat-Earthers are also a secretive, at times paranoid, community, communicating via encrypted messages on WhatsApp, invitation-only Facebook groups and especially on YouTube, where their channels have tens of thousands of followers.<br />There, they are free to state what they believe, without fear of ridicule: that the Earth is a flat, stationary body.<br />It is an argument they advance with varying interpretations of physics, optics and the Bible, dismissing all evidence to the contrary as a conspiracy.<br />- 'Humankind's greatest lie' -<br />Brazilians who believe the Earth is flat are mostly men, often Catholics or evangelical Christians, and with relatively low levels of education, according to Datafolha.<br />But don't confuse education with knowledge, the Flat-Earthers warn.<br />"Flat-Earthers are the smartest. Write that!" says Anderson Neves, a 50-year-old entrepreneur, who has come to Ricardo's restaurant armed with a pamphlet denouncing the "hoaxes" of Newton and Copernicus.<br />"A malignant pseudo-science has corrupted the education system around the world," says another text he is carrying.<br />It calls the idea of a round Earth "humankind's greatest lie, dictated by the global elite."<br />Next to him, Ricardo's Flat-Earth model shows the sun and Moon as little balls, equal in size, suspended above a disc-shaped planet.<br />"Just look at the horizon. Climb a mountain and take pictures. You can see the Earth isn't curved," says Neves, clutching a level to illustrate his point.<br />The Flat-Earthers are brimming with counter-factual questions: If the Earth is rotating at 1,700 kilometers (1,000 miles) per hour at the equator, why doesn't the movement make everything fly off? If it's a sphere, why can't we see the curve from an airplane?<br />They give little credit to photographs from space or scientists' answers about gravity, Foucault's pendulum and two millennia of astronomical observation.<br />"We've known for certain the Earth isn't flat since Galileo, since the early 17th century. But the ancient Greeks had pieced it together more than 2,000 years ago," says astronomer Roberto Costa of the University of Sao Paulo.<br />"To scientists, this (Flat-Earth theory) seems more like a topic for psychologists or sociologists to study. The Earth's shape isn't a scientific problem to astronomers."<br />- Tilted Eiffel Tower? -<br />One of the most prominent of Brazil's Flat-Earthers is Afonso de Vasconcelos, a geophysicist with a PhD from the University of Sao Paulo.<br />Vasconcelos is based in the United States, which is also home to a large community of Flat-Earthers. One of them died last week attempting to launch himself more than 1,500 meters (nearly a mile) into the sky in a homemade rocket.<br />Fellow YouTuber Siddhartha Chaibub, "Professor Flat-Earth" (Professor Terra Plana), has nearly 30,000 followers. Last November, Chaibub helped organize the first-ever convention for Brazilian Flat-Earthers, which drew hundreds of people in Sao Paulo.<br />One of the favorite targets for Flat-Earthers' conspiracy theories is NASA. They accuse the US space agency of pulling a giant fraud.<br />"Man never landed on the Moon. That was a studio set," says Ricardo.<br />As for satellite images showing Earth's curvature from space, he demands: "Where's the tilted Eiffel Tower?"<br />© 2020 AFP<br /><br /></p>
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첫댓글"The only things I know for certain are that I'm going to die someday and that the Earth is flat," he says. 어느 프랫어써의 말 단지 내가 확실히 아는것은 나는 언젠가는 죽는다는 것과 지구가 평평하다고 하는것 뿐이다
One of the most prominent of Brazil's Flat-Earthers is Afonso de Vasconcelos, a geophysicist with a PhD from the University of Sao Paulo. 브라질의 플랫 어써들 중 가장 특이한 것 중 하나는 상파울루 대학의 박사학위를 가진 지구물리학자인 알폰소 데 바스콘셀로스다.
첫댓글 "The only things I know for certain are that I'm going to die someday and that the Earth is flat," he says.
어느 프랫어써의 말
단지 내가 확실히 아는것은
나는 언젠가는 죽는다는 것과 지구가 평평하다고 하는것 뿐이다
간단히 확인할수 있습니다 지구가 평평하다면
한라산 정상에서 허불 망원경으로 미국쪽을 보면,, 미국땅이 보이겠지요
그렇지만 지구가 둥글다면은 안보일 것이고요
@검불 시력의 한계나 기후조건때문에 보이지 않고 직진하는 레이져를 쏴서 상호확인 하는 방법이
있습니다
곡률으 유무를 알아보기 위해 근거리에서 한 레이저실험은 여럿 있습니다
@관찰자
그럼 진작에 지구가 둥글다는게,, 증명 됬었기 때문에 학교에서
진리를 배우는 어린 학생들에게 지구는 둥글다고 가르치는거죠
지구촌 모든 학교에서 학생한테 지구는 둥글다고 가르치잖아요
@검불 평평한것으로 나타났습니다
@관찰자
평평한 것으로 나타났다면
전세계 모든 학교에서 지구는 둥글다고 학생들한테 가르치겠습니까?
평평하다고 고쳐서 가르칠것이고 지구촌이 들썩들썩 했겠지요 근데
지구가 완전 뒤집어질 경천동지 할,, 사건인데도, 아주 조용하잖아요
@검불 일단은 안믿으니까 가르칠수 없죠
공식화되면 천지가 개벽되는 상황이 벌어지니
걍 무시하고 지나가는거죠
요새 평지론 유튜브 계정이 많이 폐쇄된다고 하네요
정보차단 목적이겠죠
@관찰자
그렇다고 진리를 배우는 어린학생들한테 계속 둥글다고 거짓을 가르치겠습니까
전세계 지식인들이 모두 바보일까요,, 사실대로 바로잡지 않을 이유가 없잖아요
@검불 어둠의 세력은 정치계, 경제계, 문화계 뿐만 아니라 학계도 모두 장악한지 오래 되었지요..
교과서가 진리입니까? 성경이 진리입니까?
교과서에는 우리가 모르는 많은 사실들이 거짓입니다.
대표적인것이 진화론인죠..
둥근지구론, 태양계 중심설등은 가설입니다.
진실인양 포장하고, 장악한 언론등을 통해서 계속 세뇌시키죠..
9시 뉴스만 틀어도 둥근지구를 뒷배경으로 수시로 보여주니 설마..하는 생각에 모두 세뇌된것입니다.
또한 천문한적 돈을 들여 우주사업이니, 뻥을 치고 있으니 또 설마 하는 겁니다.
그들의 돈은 세계경제를 좌지우지합니다.
우주인들이 우주선에 탈때 천주교 의식을 치르는 것 모르죠?
한줌도 안되는 세력들이 전세계를 우롱하고 세뇌시킵니다.
교황청 일루미나티의 태양신 숭배는 우주라는 거짓에서 출발합니다.
삭제된 댓글 입니다.
Ooh ~ ye ye
I coundn`t make out what you mean !!
Beg your pardon?
well ...
One of the most prominent of Brazil's Flat-Earthers is Afonso de Vasconcelos, a geophysicist with a PhD from the University of Sao Paulo.
브라질의 플랫 어써들 중 가장 특이한 것 중 하나는 상파울루 대학의 박사학위를 가진 지구물리학자인 알폰소 데 바스콘셀로스다.
I`m dead set against it ""
Your behavior is really tiresome --
Cut off the silly story
Butterfingers !!
Devil take it ~ !!!
Chik''
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큰일났네
@관찰자
ㅋ,,ㅋ
문듸쥐랼하고자빠즛네
누가 누굴 찍긴 믈 찍어 !!!
까구잇녜 ㅎ
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