Who is the best Board Game Designer? Boardgamegeek gives the answer...
And of course, we all disagree.
누가 최고의 보드게임 디자이너인가? 보드게임긱이 그 해답을 알려줄꺼야...
그리고 물론 우린 이 리스트에 대해 모두 동의하지 않을꺼야.
But some designers are more universally liked than others. I wanted to see who had the best overall rating amongst all their games, so I did a bit of stat crunching.
그러나 몇몇 디자이너들은 다른 사람들보다 더 널리 사랑받잖아. 난 그들이 만든 모든 게임에 대해 누가 가장 전체 평점이 좋은지 알아보기로 했어.
First of all, only game designers with 1000+ total ratings were eligible. This brought my list to twenty-eight designers (I may have missed some - let me know). Since I only wanted to do the top twenty-five, I had to drop three. Sadly, I knocked Richard Ulrich and Michael Kiesling off my list - they are both fantastic designers, but almost exclusively in conjunction with Wolfgang Kramer. Aaron Wesiblum was rejected for the same reason, as the vast majority of his games are in conjunction with Alan Moon.
먼저, 수많은 게임 디자이너가 있지만 평점의 합이 1000점 이상이 되는 사람을 대상으로 했어. 그랬더니 28명의 디자이너가 나오더군(빠진 사람이 있으면 알려줘). 난.... 그걸 25명으로 추려내고 싶어서(아무래도 28명보다는 25명이 각이 잡히잖아?) 3명을 짤라냈지. 아쉽게도 리카르드 울리히와 미카엘 키슬링이 떨어졌어. 그들이 훌륭한 디자이너인건 사실이지만 대부분의 작업이 볼프강 크라머와의 공동작업이지. 아론 바이스블럼 역시 알란 문과의 공동작업이 대부분인 관계로 짤려나갔어.
I then took the sum total of all the ratings for all games and expansions that the designer had on boardgamegeek, and found the average. This list is in order of the highest average rating, and descending.
그리고 나서는 25명의 사람들이 만든 모든 게임과 그 확장팩(물론 긱에 등록되어있는 것들)의 모든 평점을 더하고는 평균을 구했어. 이제 보게 될 리스트는 그 평균점의 내림차순이야.
When I ranked the designers in order of how many games they've produced, I only ranked them against others on this list - as there are some prolific designers out there who are NOT on the list simply because their games are not as popular. I suppose that you could take the "Total Ratings" statistic and use it as a sheer measure of a designer's poplularity.
이 디자이너들을 그들이 만든 게임의 개수로 순서를 매기니까 이 리스트와는 다르게 나오더군. 몇몇 다작을 하는 디자이너의 게임 중 유명하지 않은 게임은 등록되어 있지 않거든. 그래서 "평점 합"이라는 수치를 디자이너의 인기도에 대한 순수한 자료로 사용하기로 했어.
For the sake of interest, I also listed the top-rated game of each designer (the one pictured), their lowest-rated game, and the game that has generated the most interest (i.e. has the most ratings.)
재미를 더하기 위해, 디자이너들의 게임중 가장 평점이 높은 게임과 가장 낮은 평점의 게임, 그리고 가장 평점이 많이 기록된 게임도 언급해두었어.
I realize that these numbers change daily, in fact some have changed in the time it took me to type this list out. Therefore, I'll update this list from time to time, and see who is added, subtracted, etc. There are many excellent game designers who are not on the list simply because they have only done a few games, and didn't reach my 1000 total ratings benchmark.
이 리스틀의 숫자가 매일 바뀌어야 하겠지만 사실.. 그건 힘들고 말야. 그래서 난 이 리스트를 틈나는 대로 수정해나갈 생각이야. 수많은 훌륭한 게임 디자이너들이 단지 게임을 적게 만들어 내가 커트라인으로 삼은 총 평점 1000점에 들지 못하는 경우가 있으니까 말야.
Under each entry, I've only listed the statistics. I'll comment a bit later...
What do you think? Who is your favorite game designer? (mine is Mr. Faidutti, although it seems that the whole of BGG does not agree with me).
너의 생각은 어때? 넌 누굴 제일 좋아하지? (나같은 경우는 파이두띠씨를 가장 좋아하지만... 물론 BGG는 나와 생각이 다른가봐...ㅎㅎ)
Update: January 7th, 2004
업데이트 : 2004년 1월 7일.
I analyzed the names added in the comments on this list, and added them to my rankings.
이 리스트 밑에 달린 코멘트를 분석해서 내 순위에 몇몇 사람들을 추가했어.
Some still did not make the cut, having less than 1000 ratings. These include Mark Simonitch, Alfred M. Butts, and Ruediger Dorn.
몇몇 사람들은 여전히 총점이 1000점을 넘기 못하더군. 마크 시모니취, 알프레드 M. 버츠, 뤼디게르 도른이 그들이야.
I'm still going to keep this list at 25, but will use all of those who qualify for ranking purposes (There are currently 33 designers who qualify.) I'll still keep Weissblum, etc. off the list, but will now include them in the rankings, since I do have their stats.
난 이 리스트를 25로 계속 유지할 꺼야, 그러나 이 랭킹의 목표를 달성하는 사람에 대해선 계속 기록해나갈 생각이야. (현재 33명의 디자이너가 이 기준치를 넘었지) 바이스블럼 같은 경우는 계속 리스트에서 제외할 생각이지만 그들의 스탯으로 랭킹에는 포함시키기로 했어.
For the record, the bottom five guys (who could not fit on this list) are:
기록상, 최저점을 기록한 5명을 공개하도록 하지(33명에는 들지만 25위안에는 못드는??)
Steve Jackson - average rating 6.44, 2471 ratings
Tom Wham - average rating 6.43, 1144 ratings
Richard Berg - average rating 6.37, 1064 ratings
James Ernest - average rating 5.94, 4727 ratings
Andrew Looney - average rating 5.94, 1158 ratings
스티브 잭슨 - 평균 6.44, 총점 2471
톰 웸 - 평균 6.42, 총점 1144
리카르드 베르그 - 평균 6.37, 총점 1064
제임스 어니스트 - 평균 5.94, 총점 4727
앤드류 루니 - 평균 5.94, 총점 1158
Average Rating - 8.49 (1st)
BGG Entries - 5 (32nd)
Total Ratings - 1752 (19th)
Highest Game Rating - Puerto Rico - 8.93
Lowest Game Rating - Waldmeister - 5.81
Game with most Ratings - Puerto Rico - 1395
Tom Vasel
I thought for sure that when San Juan became widespread, that this designer's average rating would come down. But now I'm not so sure, as early reports are extremely positive.
산후앙이 널리 퍼지면 이 디자이너의 평균은 내려갈꺼야. 그러나 지금 확신할수는 없지만 리뷰를 보면 확실히 잘 만든 게임같더군.
2. Carcassonne - The Expansion / Klaus-Jurgen Wrede
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.85 (3rd) - Ulrich is 2nd (울리히가 2등이지만 위에서 말한대로 제외)
BGG Entries - 9 (29th)
Total Ratings - 3604 (6th)
Highest Game Rating - Carcassonne: Inns and Cathedrals - 7.96
Lowest Game Rating - Krone & Schwert - 6.46
Game with most Ratings - Carcassonne - 1717
3. Das Wasser des Lebens / Klaus Teuber
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.49 (4th)
BGG Entries - 44 (8th)
Total Ratings - 8361 (2nd)
Highest Game Rating - Das Wassar des Lebens - 8.63
Lowest Game Rating - Chip-Chip Hurra - 5.63
Game with most Ratings - Settlers of Catan - 1740
4. Advanced Civilization / Francis Tresham
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.45 (5th)
BGG Entries - 12 (26th)
Total Ratings - 1824 (18th)
Highest Game Rating - Advanced Civilization - 7.79
Lowest Game Rating - 1825 - 5.66
Game with most Ratings - Civilization - 609
5. Princes of Florence / Wolfgang Kramer
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.36 (6th)
BGG Entries - 78 (2nd)
Total Ratings - 7553 (3rd)
Highest Game Rating - Princes of Florence - 8.19
Lowest Game Rating - Im 7 Himmel - 5.2
Game with most Ratings - El Grande - 893
6. Cosmic Encounter - Eon Expansion #4 / Bill Eberle, Jack Kittredge, and Peter Olotka
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.32 (7th)
BGG Entries - 19 (15th)
Total Ratings - 1585 (21st)
Highest Game Rating - Cosmic Encounter: Eon Expansion #4 - 7.96
Lowest Game Rating - Dune: the Duel - 5.03
Game with most Ratings - Cosmic Encounter - 750
7. Euphrat & Tigris / Reiner Knizia
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.29 (8th)
BGG Entries - 110 (1st)
Total Ratings - 14853 (1st)
Highest Game Rating - Tigris and Euphrates - 8.53
Lowest Game Rating - Dark Side - 5.2
Game with most Ratings - Tigris and Euphrates - 987
J Boyes
It is impressive that RK has such a high rating with so many games. That should count for something.
RK는 높은 평점의 게임을 참 많이 만들었지. 멋져.
Nicholas Donegan
Again, RK has designed 5 of the Top 20 Games! I know you are using a specific formula, but I'm not so sure about the accuracy... still, this is a fun and interesting list!
RK는 탑 20게임중에 5개를 만들었어. 난 Tom Vasel 당신이 독특한 식을 사용해 이 리스트를 만들었는데.. 그것의 정확함에 의문이 가는군. 그래도 이 리스트는 재미있고 흥미로은 리스트야!
8. Age of Steam Expansion Set #1 / Martin Wallace
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.29 (9th)
BGG Entries - 24 (10th)
Total Ratings - 1304 (26th)
Highest Game Rating - Age of Steam, Expansion #1 - 8.55
Lowest Game Rating - de WeiBe Lotus - 5.96
Game with most Ratings - Age of Steam - 374
9. Wallenstein / Dirk Henn
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.24 (11th) - Kiesling is 10th
BGG Entries - 18 (17th)
Total Ratings - 1553 (23rd)
Highest Game Rating - Wallenstein - 8.02
Lowest Game Rating - Yukon Company - 5.58
Game with most Ratings - Metro - 311
Kevin Nesbitt
Dirk Henn is THE designer of choice in my book. I mean, so much variety in his games! Would you believe the same man who made Wallenstein also made Metro? I wouldn't unless I had read it on the box myself.
디르크 헨은 내 취향에 맞는 디자이너야. 그의 게임엔 여러가지 요소가 많아. 발냄슈타인이랑 메트로를 같은 사람이 만들었다는게 믿겨져? 블라블라블라...
Tom Vasel
I agree totally. Whenever I play a Knizia, Teuber, or Kramer game, I think that I could guess the author because they all have a certain "signature" feel to them. Every one of Henn's games that I play has an extremely unique feel. Of course, I think he deserves to be on this list on basis of Wallenstein alone.
나도 같은 생각이야. 크니지아, 토이버, 크라머 게임을 하고 있노라면 이 게임은 누가 만들었겠군이라는 게 느껴져. 헨의 모든 게임을 해보면 확실히 독특하다는게 느껴져. 그는 발냄슈타인 하나만으로도 이 리스트에 오를 자격이 있다고 생각해.
Peter Marchlewitz
Yeah...and Alhambra and Atlantic Star too. Great diversity and great games.
맞아. 알함브라와 아틀란틱 스타 역시 그래. 멋진 게임들이지.
10. Battle Cry / Richard Borg
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.22 (12th)
BGG Entries - 13 (23rd)
Total Ratings - 2175 (14th)
Highest Game Rating - Battle Cry - 7.73
Lowest Game Rating - Pig Pile - 5.75
Game with most Ratings - Battle Cry - 543
11. Gamut of Games, a / Sid Sackson
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.2 (13rd)
BGG Entries - 53 (5th)
Total Ratings - 2936 (8th)
Highest Game Rating - Gamut of Games - 8.32
Lowest Game Rating - Das Super-Blatt - 5.31
Game with most Ratings - Acquire - 1088
12. Robo Rally - Armed & Dangerous / Richard Garfield
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.17 (14th)
BGG Entries - 16 (20th)
Total Ratings - 3281 (7th)
Highest Game Rating - Roborally: Armed and Dangerous - 7.91
Lowest Game Rating - Star Wars: Trading Card Game - 5.31
Game with most Ratings - Magic: The Gathering - 746
Aaron Potter
I'm a bit surprised to see Garfield this high up the list. As a game designer...well, he's a brilliant mathematician. Don't get me wrong, I went through a Magic phase like everybody else (until WotC killed it dead, dead, dead) but I've never seen the appeal of, say, RoboRally. Maybe someone will explain to me some day why I'm supposed to enjoy what is essentially an assignment for a class on algorithmic design..
음.. 가필드가 이렇게 순위가 높으리라고는 생각 못했는데? 그는 게임디자이너이긴 하지만... 영리한 수학자지. 블라블라블라...
John McCoy
You ask why is Roborally a good game? Robots fall down go *boom*! What's not to like?
로보랠리가 왜 좋은 게임이냐고 물은거야? 로봇이 떨어져 터지는거야! 좋지 않아? (주 : 로봇의 로망은 자폭, 베이베)
13. Star Wars - The Queen's Gambit / Rob Daviau
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 7.14 (15th)
BGG Entries - 6 (31st)
Total Ratings - 1235 (27th)
Highest Game Rating - Star Wars: Queen's Gambit - 7.5
Lowest Game Rating - Game of Life: A Jedi's Path - 5.6
Game with most Ratings - Risk 2210 - 317
14. Wyatt Earp / Mike Fitzgerald
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.99 (16th)
BGG Entries - 13 (23rd)
Total Ratings - 1122 (30th)
Highest Game Rating - Wyatt Earp - 7.39
Lowest Game Rating - Lord of the Rings Tarot Deck - 5.19
Game with most Ratings - Wyatt Earp - 454
Average Rating - 6.96 (18th) - Weissblum is 17th (바이스블럼.. 이유는 알지?)
BGG Entries - 20 (12th)
Total Ratings - 2889 (9th)
Highest Game Rating - Bohnanza - Revised Set - 7.8
Lowest Game Rating - Titus - 5.04
Game with most Ratings - Bohnanza - 1103
16. For Sale / Stefan Dorra
Statistics as of January 7th, 2004
Average Rating - 6.93 (19th)
BGG Entries - 38 (14th)
Total Ratings - 1851 (20th)
Highest Game Rating - For Sale - 7.56
Lowest Game Rating - Schwarzmarkt - 518
Game with most Ratings - Medina - 296
17. Mü und Mehr / Frank Nestel
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.91 (20th)
BGG Entries - 16 (20th)
Total Ratings - 1345 (25th)
Highest Game Rating - Mu and Mehr - 7.7
Lowest Game Rating - Banana Republic - 5.44
Game with most Ratings - Ursuppe - 297
18. Macher, die / Karl-Heinz Schmiel
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.9 (21st)
BGG Entries - 15 (16th)
Total Ratings - 1073 (32nd)
Highest Game Rating - Die Macher - 8.15
Lowest Game Rating - Democrazy - 5.6
Game with most Ratings - Attila - 327
19. Union Pacific / Alan Moon
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.89 (22nd)
BGG Entries - 49 (7th)
Total Ratings - 4743 (5th)
Highest Game Rating - Union Pacific - 7.74
Lowest Game Rating - Bureacracy - 3.68
Game with most Ratings - Elfenland - 608
20. Citadels / Bruno Faidutti
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.84 (23rd)
BGG Entries - 20 (12th)
Total Ratings - 2839 (11th)
Highest Game Rating - Citadels - 7.62
Lowest Game Rating - Draco & Co. - 5.56
Game with most Ratings - Citadels - 884
21. Big City / Franz-Benno Delonge
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.81 (24th)
BGG Entries - 4 (33rd)
Total Ratings - 1113 (31st)
Highest Game Rating - Big City - 7
Lowest Game Rating - Zahltag - 5.13
Game with most Ratings - Transamerica - 532
22. Magna Grecia / Leo Colovini
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.78 (25th)
BGG Entries - 20 (12th)
Total Ratings - 1870 (16th)
Highest Game Rating - Magna Grecia - 7.45
Lowest Game Rating - Dummy - 5.31
Game with most Ratings - Cartagena - 440
Chad Krizan
My personal favorite designer, which is rather odd since my favorite games are generally racing games!
I just enjoy the weird and unique mechanics of many of his games, such as Carolus Magnus, Meridian, and Bridges of Shangri-La. Whenever I play a new game of his, it always seems very different from anything else I have played!
I'd probably crap my pants if he ever came out with a racing game!
내가 개인적으로 젤 좋아하는 디자이너야. 내가 다소 레이싱게임을 좋아하기 때문이지. 난 그의 게임에 있는 이상하고 독특한 메카니즘을 좋아해. 그의 신작을 해보면 이제껏 내가 플레이했던 게임들과 아주 다르다는 걸 느끼지
만약에 그가 레이싱 게임을 들고 나오면 아마 난 바지를 벗어 던질껄! (뭐... 뭐냐?)
Chuck Blahous
Hmmm. . . I only have one game by Colovoni, and it's Cartagena. Isn't that a racing game?
흠... 카르테헤나만 해봤는데.. 그거.. 레이싱 게임 아냐?
Chad Krizan
I knew someone would mention Cartegena. It is a racing game, kind of, but it's a little more abstract than I'd like. Colovini's style of game design just lends itself to more abstract games, though.
Still, I want to see a Colovini Formula 1 Racing game. Too bad it will never happen!
누가 카르테헤나가 레이싱 게임이라고 말했던게 기억나는데... 사실 그 게임은 내 취향보다는 조금 더 추상전략에 가까웠어. 콜로비니의 게임 디자인 스타일은 추상전략 게임에 가깝지. 콜로비니의 포뮬라 1 레이싱 게임을 보고 싶지만.. 나오진 않겠지?
23. Rise and Decline of the Third Reich / Don Greenwood
Statistics as of January 7th, 2004
Average Rating - 6.77 (26th)
BGG Entries - 21 (11th)
Total Ratings - 1942 (15th)
Highest Game Rating - Rise and Decline of the Third Reich - 7.45
Lowest Game Rating - Basketball Strategy - 5.23
Game with most Ratings - Age of Renaissance - 359
Joe Scoleri
I was wondering where the wargame designers would fall in...
However, Third Reich was designed by John Prados.
이 워게임 디자이너가 포함된게 이상하지만.. 제 3제국은 존 프라도스가 디자인한거야.
24. Axis and Allies: Pacific / Lawrence Harris
Statistics as of January 2nd, 2004
Average Rating - 6.7 (27th)
BGG Entries - 7 (30th)
Total Ratings - 1583 (22nd)
Highest Game Rating - Axis and Allies: Pacific - 7.08
Lowest Game Rating - Broadsides and Boarding Parties - 5.59
Game with most Ratings - Axis and Allies - 945
25. Industria / Michael Schacht
Statistics as of January 7th, 2004
Average Rating - 6.69 (28th)
BGG Entries - 38 (9th)
Total Ratings - 1851 (17th)
Highest Game Rating - Industria - 7.51
Lowest Game Rating - Buse Bubon - 5.38
Game with most Ratings - Coloretto - 262
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우리나라에 거주하시는 Tom Vasel 씨는 보드게임긱에서도 가장 왕성한 활동을 하고 계시는 분 중 하나입니다. 그 분이 작성한 긱리스트 중 가장 최근 것 중 하나를 어설픈 번역을 곁들여 가지고 왔습니다. 물론 출처는 보드게임긱입니다. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist.php3?action=view&listid=1891
보드게임긱이 뭐고, 긱리스트는 뭐냐? 라는 분들을 위해... 보드게임긱은 세계에서 가장 큰 보드게임 커뮤니티 중 하나입니다. 가장 활발한 중고시장이 운영되는 곳 중 하나이구요. 긱리스트는 유저들이 임의의 주제를 놓고 만드는 게임리스트인데요. 긱에서 게임페이지를 읽다보면 밑에 그 게임이 포함되어있는 긱리스트들이 나옵니다. 재미있는게 많죠.
사실 누구 누구를 비교한다는 건 상당히 예민한 문제입니다. 제가 자주가는 사이트 중 하나인 사커라인이나 mlppark 같은 곳에 "호나우도는 셰브첸코따위 우습다"라든지 "본즈가 루스보다 낫다" 같은 글을 올리면 수많은 악플을 각오해야 할 겁니다.
그.럼.에.도.불.구.하.고.
이런 비교는... 재밌는게 사실입니다. :)
긱 평점은 일단 우리나라 정서와 안 맞는 면이 있기도 하지만 대부분이 동의하시는 내용일거구요. 그래서 함 읽어보면 잼납니다. 영어가 되시면 원문을 직접읽어보시는 것도 좋겠네요.
어쨌거나.... 읽어주셔서 감사.
(개인적으로 크니지아가 대단하다고는 생각하지만 워낙 다작이라.. 실망스러운 것도 많지요. 제 개인 취향은.... 도라도라도라입니다. :)
첫댓글 영어의 압박으로 아무도 안 읽으실라나? ㅎㅎ 그래도 모두 해석이 되어있는 글인데....
어째, Big City Night이라는 스콜피온즈의 노래가 생각이 나네..-_-;; 그나저나 The Queen's Gambit 이 13위라니, 해보고싶어지는군..
와우 무사님 멋져요 *.*