<p>It's over, it's the end, I say goodbye. I won't be able to be second generation Bingo. <br><br>I live in Spain and I've seen the subscription prices including fees and shipping, it's 105,500 won. The subscription is an affodable 35,000 won, but I can't afford to pay three times the price for overpriced shipping. <br>I deeply regret that Namoo did not also add a digital entry, a simple refurbishment for first-generation Bingos that would allow us to enjoy the digital content of the fancafe and nothing more. We foreigners, for the most part, only have the benefit of accessing the fancafé and seeing some exclusive photos because we can't travel to the Meetings. But at least our consolation is to be able to talk to other Bingos at the fancafé and see some exclusive photo of the actress Eun Bin or a video. I won't be able to do that now.<br>Honestly, I am very disappointed with this fan management where it seems that only money matters. Many times I have pleaded in this fancafé for a digital-only renewal but it seems I have not been heard, yet I wish with all my heart that my plea would be heard.<br><br>I will remain Bingo in my heart and I will not feel like a second class Bingo even if they try to separate us between the Bingos who have money and those of us who don't have so much.<br><br>Thank you to all the Bingos who have ever talked to me, those who have given me advice, those who have shown me their culture, and those who have told me that they like the edited photos I have shared of actress EunBin.</p><p> </p><p>I apologise if my words are too blunt, I do not intend to make anyone uncomfortable or disrespectful, only to share my concern with the community.</p><p><br>Thank you all.</p><p> </p><p>끝났어요, 이제 끝이에요, 안녕을 고합니다. 나는 두 번째 세대 Bingo가 될 수 없을 거예요.</p><p>저는 스페인에 살고 있으며, 수수료와 배송비를 포함한 구독 가격을 보았습니다. 105,500원이에요. 구독료는 35,000원으로 합리적인데, 배송비가 너무 비싸서 세 배의 가격을 감당할 수 없어요. Namoo가 디지털 입장도 추가하지 않은 것을 깊이 후회합니다. 첫 번째 세대 Bingo를 위한 간단한 개조를 통해 저희가 팬카페의 디지털 콘텐츠만 즐길 수 있게 해주었으면 했어요. 외국인으로서 대부분의 경우 저희는 팬카페에 접근하고 몇몇 독점 사진을 볼 수 있는 혜택밖에 없어요. 모임에 참여할 수 없기 때문이죠. 하지만 적어도 저희의 위안은 팬카페에서 다른 Bingo들과 대화하고 배우 Eun Bin의 독점 사진이나 비디오를 볼 수 있다는 것이었어요. 이제는 그럴 수 없게 되었네요. 솔직히 말해서, 돈만 중요한 것처럼 보이는 팬 관리에 매우 실망했어요. 이 팬카페에서 여러 번 디지털 전용 갱신을 간청했지만, 아무도 제 말을 들어주지 않은 것 같아요. 그러나 진심으로 제 간청이 들리기를 바랍니다.</p><p>저는 마음 속에 Bingo로 남아 있을 것이며, 저희를 돈이 있는 Bingo와 그렇지 않은 Bingo로 나누려고 해도 저는 이등 Bingo로 느끼지 않을 거예요.</p><p>저와 대화를 나눠준 모든 Bingo들, 저에게 조언을 준 사람들, 저에게 문화를 보여준 사람들, 그리고 제가 공유한 Eun Bin 배우의 편집된 사진을 좋아해주신 분들께 감사합니다.</p><p>제 말이 너무 직설적이라면 사과드려요. 누구도 불편하게 하거나 불경스럽게 하려는 의도는 없었고, 단지 제 우려를 커뮤니티와 나누고자 했을 뿐입니다.</p><p>모두 감사합니다.</p>
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답변과 지원에 감사드립니다. 저에게는 매우 힘든 일입니다. 저는 첫 번째 세대 Bingo에 참여했고, 배우 Eun Bin의 공식 팬이 된 것은 이번이 처음이어서 매우 자랑스럽게 생각합니다. 배우 Eun Bin에게 특별한 감정을 가지고 있으며, 경제적으로 어려운 상황 때문에 이 커뮤니티에서 벗어나는 느낌이 듭니다.
Interpark에 연락해 보겠지만, Namoo 측에서 상품 없이 디지털 티켓 요청을 받지 않으면 그들이 아무것도 하지 않을 것 같습니다. 가난한 Bingo의 눈물은 바다 속의 눈물입니다. 감사합니다.
@우탕BINGO저는 Global Interpark 사이트를 통해 접근하고 있습니다. 국가를 입력할 때 배송비가 67,000원으로 표시됩니다. 여기에 더해 제 나라의 관세도 추가로 부담해야 합니다... 지금으로서는 너무 비쌉니다. 그래서 저는 선물 없이 단순히 팬카페와 배우 Eun Bin의 독점 사진과 비디오에 접근할 수 있는 디지털 갱신을 원했습니다. 고마워요. 어떤 경우에도 당신의 도움에 감사합니다.
@우탕BINGO여러분의 성원과 이해는 감사하지만... 현실적으로 배우 은빈의 독점 영상이 그리울 것 같습니다. 팬카페에서처럼 빙고만을 바라보며 웃는 모습도 볼 수 없고, 빙고에게 보내는 편지도 읽을 수 없을 것 같습니다. 사실 이번 팬카페에서 배우 은빈 씨와 더 많은 소통을 기대했는데, 워낙 바쁜 분이라 팬카페에서 함께 놀아줄 시간이 많지 않으셨던 걸로 알고 있습니다. 두 번째 시즌에는 더 많이 오셔서 이야기를 나눠주셨으면 좋겠는데... 지금은 모르겠네요. 도와주셔서 감사합니다.
Interpark site is not the main business of overseas sales, so overseas shipping costs are inevitably high. 🥲 It's better for Bingo to inquire about this separately, but the tree management company will be at a loss because there is no way to do it I hope you get a good result :)
Thank you, but I feel lost in this respect. I don't know how I can voice my concerns and have them heard, so I wanted to at least bring it up in the fancafé, in case someone could help me and pass this plea on to Namoo.
I totally agreed with you! As an overseas bingo, the shipping costs is terrible and unaffordable for many overseas players. It becomes an obstacle to cheering Eunbin as well as communicate with other bingos. I do think that in such situations, Namooactor should act humanely by offering digital applications of the second generation Bingo, I am quite sure that most of the overseas bingo would like to pay exactly the same fee 35000 won and all we want it’s the identity of Bingo 2 and the membership card by post.
Thank you brother Bingo! I feel a little less lonely right now! I think it would be a great strategy to offer a second generation Bingo card by email, everyone printing it at home. Keep the same 35,000 won subscription fee for everyone equally but overseas Bingos can choose only digital access to the content.
I have responded positively to your proposal and have also posted in other messages on the X social network. Hopefully more Bingos will join our cause and Namoo will see fit to meet our request!
@CherishOf course! The only difference would be that we would not receive the box with the gifts and the physical card, we would have less paying the same but for me it is not a problem. Actually the problem is in the mailing of the membership card and the gifts that go with it.
I agree! Shipping for me is 3x the membership fee. I wasn’t able to join the 1st Gen Bingo, and I’m so excited to have the opportunity to join 2nd Gen Bingo! It’s unfortunate that the shipping costs for overseas is so high.
International shipping is incredibly expensive. Let's hope that Namoo understands this situation and can offer us a membership with access only to the digital content of the actress Eun Bin, with a digital ID card, so that we can participate at this fancafe as second generation digital Bingos! You can also search for the post on social network X and make your request, so we will make more noise! Let's support actress Eun Bin together as Second Generation digital Bingos!
I kinda agree with you, but everyone’s financial situation is different. We all support in the ways we can, and proposing Namoo to launch affordable options shouldn’t be a problem for those who can afford normal prices. In fact, international fans have been voicing their concerns since last year. By making memberships more accessible, we can help grow the fanbase and support Eun-bin even more. 🤝
There is no empathy in your comment. Only people with money have the right to be fans? I'm not complaining about membership, I'm complaining about absurdly expensive shipping, that money doesn't support Eun Bin, it supports the shipping company. Some of us at Bingo International say we should pay the same price but forgo the gift that is sent by post and get the benefits of online content, such as this fancafe, exclusive photos and videos. After all, we would pay the same money for less benefits but we could still support the actress EunBin.
@SpanishFanI'm not arguing because you don't understand what I'm writing. Shipping costs will not decrease anytime soon, and the time expires on the 26th... but no problem, you're already here bye. Let's say your post was more self-pity….
All the best, stay healthy, I will continue to support Park Eun-bin's work 🙂
@빙고여신Of course I understood you, it seems that you are the one who doesn't understand me. It's in Namoo's hands to launch a membership with no gifts to send so the shipping costs could be eliminated and many internationals could continue to support the actress Eun Bin. After reading your comment and feeling your attitude I realise that there are also selfish and nasty Bingos. Bingos are here to help each other if you just want to laugh at my misfortune please don't write. The intention of this post is to pray Namoo's attention to this issue and pray for a favourable solution.
@SpanishFanI'm selfish and ugly, I get it. You have money for a lawsuit, but not for a shipping fee, I understand. You can personalize, but not think. I understand.
@빙고여신Complaints for abuse of consumer rights are free of charge in Spain. Great for you if you can afford to pay such high international shipping rates. Since I can't that's why I'm looking for help. Thanks for nothing. Goodbye.
I think the number of international fans interested in subscribing to online memberships must be high for Namoo to launch them. I was worried about missing the first recruitment because the membership price plus shipping to my country was too expensive. However, I managed to join thanks to a Korean warehouse that bought it for me and sent it via EMS, the cheapest option. I believe Namoo uses DHL, which is fast but pricey. Using a warehouse service can save you up to half the cost! Ánimooo!
Yes, I also understand what you write, in fact, we Hungarians also have quite a low salary... but if there is something you want, you have to give up other things... let's say I'm not that young anymore, maybe I see it differently. Also, I value tangible things more. Plus, I don't think you can be a fan of someone if you approach the topic with reservations from the start.
Of course DHL is the most expensive, and in Spain, there are many complaints about fraudulent charges and overcharges. I myself have already won two lawsuits against them. But that's not the point, the point is to be able to continue supporting the actress Eun Bin from our countries, facilitating it with a membership without sending gifts would be a win win for everyone. If you want your membership card and your physical gifts, then you pay for the shipping. If you don't want them or can't afford them, then you don't. It's the same price, nobody loses. Everybody wins and more Bingos are happy!
@SpanishFanTe entiendo completamente. Sin embargo, mientras el panorama no luce muy alentador, podrías recurrir a un servicio de almacén en Corea. Si necesitas alguna sugerencia, puedo darte algunas recomendaciones de almacenes que me han ayudado anteriormente. Por otro lado, creo que podrías proponer tu iniciativa en la sección de 건의신고 (Sugerencias) del fan café. ¡Ánimo! Por favor, dime cómo puedo apoyar tu propuesta.
@pinkdolphinGracias por responder! Agradeceré alguna recomendación, no conozco ningún servicio de almacén en Corea, una vez usé uno para un pedido en Japón y fue un horror burocrático, finalmente terminé pagando una fortuna. Haré también una sugerencia en el apartado correspondiente pero tienes razón, no creo que mi petición sea escuchada. Sé que muchos Bingos internacionales están en la misma situación, al final lo bonito de todo esto es compartir en comunidad más que el regalo que se envía con la suscripción pero somos culturas distintas, distintos valores, sé que no es fácil entendernos.
@pinkdolphinMuchas gracias! Ya he copiado el mensaje, puedes borrarlo y así no habrá problemas. Intentaré hacerlo de esta manera, de todas formas, he enviado una sugerencia a ver si hay suerte y somos escuchados. He hablado con varios Bingos y aquí en mi país varios estarían encantados de poder acogerse a una membresía online que no tenga envío. Gracias.
@pinkdolphinEsto sí es ayudarnos entre los Bingos, muchas gracias. El otro día me enfadé mucho con otro Bingo que me dijo que sólo lloraba y que si no podía pagar, era mi problema. No entiendo cómo con esos valores morales puede ser fan de nuestra querida Eun Bin. Gracias!
Hi fellow overseas Bingo! Another Bingo has mentioned it already, but have you thought/searched about using a warehouse service? They can receive your Bingo kit in Korea and send it to Spain through cheaper shipping methods... You can even ask them to send you only the membership card if sending the entire box is too expensive. There are many services like this in Korea and most of them charge only for shipping + handling fee. It might be an option 😄🩷💚
첫댓글 해외빙고님 마음은 충분히
이해를 합니다
하지만 팬카페 별개로
인터파크에서
주관 합니다
이의가 있다면
인터파크에 문의를 해보세요
함께 은빈님을 연모해요 응원해요
답변과 지원에 감사드립니다. 저에게는 매우 힘든 일입니다. 저는 첫 번째 세대 Bingo에 참여했고, 배우 Eun Bin의 공식 팬이 된 것은 이번이 처음이어서 매우 자랑스럽게 생각합니다. 배우 Eun Bin에게 특별한 감정을 가지고 있으며, 경제적으로 어려운 상황 때문에 이 커뮤니티에서 벗어나는 느낌이 듭니다.
Interpark에 연락해 보겠지만, Namoo 측에서 상품 없이 디지털 티켓 요청을 받지 않으면 그들이 아무것도 하지 않을 것 같습니다. 가난한 Bingo의 눈물은 바다 속의 눈물입니다. 감사합니다.
저도 다른 해외에 계신 빙고님을 봤었어요
저는 그래서 인터파크에 문의를 했습니다
빙고 2기는 꼭 가입해야하는게 아니기 때문에
괜찮아요
그것은 정말 놀라운 소식입니다! 어디에 물어보셨나요? 어떻게 정보를 얻을 수 있나요? 무엇을 해야 하나요?
@SpanishFan 제가 정보를 알아왔어요
인터파크 글로벌 사이트가 있다네요
그쪽에서 결제 해보시는거 어떠세요?
@우탕BINGO 글로벌이 해외배송이 비싼거에요 빙고님 ㅜ
@탕탕설탕 아아 그래요?ㅠㅜ
@우탕BINGO 해외빙고들은 글로벌 말고는 구매 할 수가 없거든요 🥹🥹
@탕탕설탕 ㅠㅜ그쵸
@우탕BINGO 저는 Global Interpark 사이트를 통해 접근하고 있습니다. 국가를 입력할 때 배송비가 67,000원으로 표시됩니다. 여기에 더해 제 나라의 관세도 추가로 부담해야 합니다... 지금으로서는 너무 비쌉니다. 그래서 저는 선물 없이 단순히 팬카페와 배우 Eun Bin의 독점 사진과 비디오에 접근할 수 있는 디지털 갱신을 원했습니다.
고마워요. 어떤 경우에도 당신의 도움에 감사합니다.
@SpanishFan 그래도 빙고의 마음만은 다 같아요 우울해 하지 마시고 슬퍼하지 마세요 해외에 있어도, 빙고 2기가 아니더라도 저는 함께 하겠습니다
@우탕BINGO 여러분의 성원과 이해는 감사하지만... 현실적으로 배우 은빈의 독점 영상이 그리울 것 같습니다. 팬카페에서처럼 빙고만을 바라보며 웃는 모습도 볼 수 없고, 빙고에게 보내는 편지도 읽을 수 없을 것 같습니다. 사실 이번 팬카페에서 배우 은빈 씨와 더 많은 소통을 기대했는데, 워낙 바쁜 분이라 팬카페에서 함께 놀아줄 시간이 많지 않으셨던 걸로 알고 있습니다. 두 번째 시즌에는 더 많이 오셔서 이야기를 나눠주셨으면 좋겠는데... 지금은 모르겠네요.
도와주셔서 감사합니다.
Interpark site is not the main business of overseas sales, so overseas shipping costs are inevitably high. 🥲 It's better for Bingo to inquire about this separately, but the tree management company will be at a loss because there is no way to do it I hope you get a good result :)
Thank you, but I feel lost in this respect. I don't know how I can voice my concerns and have them heard, so I wanted to at least bring it up in the fancafé, in case someone could help me and pass this plea on to Namoo.
But I find it very difficult.
Thank you!
I totally agreed with you! As an overseas bingo, the shipping costs is terrible and unaffordable for many overseas players. It becomes an obstacle to cheering Eunbin as well as communicate with other bingos. I do think that in such situations, Namooactor should act humanely by offering digital applications of the second generation Bingo, I am quite sure that most of the overseas bingo would like to pay exactly the same fee 35000 won and all we want it’s the identity of Bingo 2 and the membership card by post.
Thank you brother Bingo! I feel a little less lonely right now! I think it would be a great strategy to offer a second generation Bingo card by email, everyone printing it at home. Keep the same 35,000 won subscription fee for everyone equally but overseas Bingos can choose only digital access to the content.
@SpanishFan This is exactly what I mean, give me five!
@Cherish
I have leave a message to the post on Bingo 2 recruitment on the X platform, hope Namoo will respond to it.
Great idea!
I'm going to leave a comment too!
@SpanishFan
I have responded positively to your proposal and have also posted in other messages on the X social network. Hopefully more Bingos will join our cause and Namoo will see fit to meet our request!
@SpanishFan In fact, it is a win-win proposal, hope Namoo will consider it.
@Cherish Of course! The only difference would be that we would not receive the box with the gifts and the physical card, we would have less paying the same but for me it is not a problem. Actually the problem is in the mailing of the membership card and the gifts that go with it.
I agree! Shipping for me is 3x the membership fee. I wasn’t able to join the 1st Gen Bingo, and I’m so excited to have the opportunity to join 2nd Gen Bingo! It’s unfortunate that the shipping costs for overseas is so high.
International shipping is incredibly expensive. Let's hope that Namoo understands this situation and can offer us a membership with access only to the digital content of the actress Eun Bin, with a digital ID card, so that we can participate at this fancafe as second generation digital Bingos! You can also search for the post on social network X and make your request, so we will make more noise!
Let's support actress Eun Bin together as Second Generation digital Bingos!
If you love it, you spend it. That’s all.
I kinda agree with you, but everyone’s financial situation is different. We all support in the ways we can, and proposing Namoo to launch affordable options shouldn’t be a problem for those who can afford normal prices. In fact, international fans have been voicing their concerns since last year. By making memberships more accessible, we can help grow the fanbase and support Eun-bin even more. 🤝
There is no empathy in your comment. Only people with money have the right to be fans?
I'm not complaining about membership, I'm complaining about absurdly expensive shipping, that money doesn't support Eun Bin, it supports the shipping company. Some of us at Bingo International say we should pay the same price but forgo the gift that is sent by post and get the benefits of online content, such as this fancafe, exclusive photos and videos. After all, we would pay the same money for less benefits but we could still support the actress EunBin.
@SpanishFan I'm not arguing because you don't understand what I'm writing. Shipping costs will not decrease anytime soon, and the time expires on the 26th... but no problem, you're already here bye. Let's say your post was more self-pity….
All the best, stay healthy, I will continue to support Park Eun-bin's work 🙂
@빙고여신 Of course I understood you, it seems that you are the one who doesn't understand me. It's in Namoo's hands to launch a membership with no gifts to send so the shipping costs could be eliminated and many internationals could continue to support the actress Eun Bin.
After reading your comment and feeling your attitude I realise that there are also selfish and nasty Bingos.
Bingos are here to help each other if you just want to laugh at my misfortune please don't write. The intention of this post is to pray Namoo's attention to this issue and pray for a favourable solution.
@SpanishFan I'm selfish and ugly, I get it. You have money for a lawsuit, but not for a shipping fee, I understand. You can personalize, but not think. I understand.
@빙고여신 Complaints for abuse of consumer rights are free of charge in Spain. Great for you if you can afford to pay such high international shipping rates. Since I can't that's why I'm looking for help. Thanks for nothing. Goodbye.
I think the number of international fans interested in subscribing to online memberships must be high for Namoo to launch them. I was worried about missing the first recruitment because the membership price plus shipping to my country was too expensive. However, I managed to join thanks to a Korean warehouse that bought it for me and sent it via EMS, the cheapest option. I believe Namoo uses DHL, which is fast but pricey. Using a warehouse service can save you up to half the cost! Ánimooo!
Yes, I also understand what you write, in fact, we Hungarians also have quite a low salary... but if there is something you want, you have to give up other things... let's say I'm not that young anymore, maybe I see it differently. Also, I value tangible things more. Plus, I don't think you can be a fan of someone if you approach the topic with reservations from the start.
Of course DHL is the most expensive, and in Spain, there are many complaints about fraudulent charges and overcharges. I myself have already won two lawsuits against them. But that's not the point, the point is to be able to continue supporting the actress Eun Bin from our countries, facilitating it with a membership without sending gifts would be a win win for everyone. If you want your membership card and your physical gifts, then you pay for the shipping. If you don't want them or can't afford them, then you don't. It's the same price, nobody loses. Everybody wins and more Bingos are happy!
@SpanishFan Te entiendo completamente. Sin embargo, mientras el panorama no luce muy alentador, podrías recurrir a un servicio de almacén en Corea. Si necesitas alguna sugerencia, puedo darte algunas recomendaciones de almacenes que me han ayudado anteriormente. Por otro lado, creo que podrías proponer tu iniciativa en la sección de 건의신고 (Sugerencias) del fan café. ¡Ánimo! Por favor, dime cómo puedo apoyar tu propuesta.
@pinkdolphin Gracias por responder! Agradeceré alguna recomendación, no conozco ningún servicio de almacén en Corea, una vez usé uno para un pedido en Japón y fue un horror burocrático, finalmente terminé pagando una fortuna. Haré también una sugerencia en el apartado correspondiente pero tienes razón, no creo que mi petición sea escuchada. Sé que muchos Bingos internacionales están en la misma situación, al final lo bonito de todo esto es compartir en comunidad más que el regalo que se envía con la suscripción pero somos culturas distintas, distintos valores, sé que no es fácil entendernos.
@pinkdolphin Muchas gracias!
Ya he copiado el mensaje, puedes borrarlo y así no habrá problemas.
Intentaré hacerlo de esta manera, de todas formas, he enviado una sugerencia a ver si hay suerte y somos escuchados. He hablado con varios Bingos y aquí en mi país varios estarían encantados de poder acogerse a una membresía online que no tenga envío.
Gracias.
@SpanishFan
@pinkdolphin Esto sí es ayudarnos entre los Bingos, muchas gracias. El otro día me enfadé mucho con otro Bingo que me dijo que sólo lloraba y que si no podía pagar, era mi problema.
No entiendo cómo con esos valores morales puede ser fan de nuestra querida Eun Bin.
Gracias!
Hi fellow overseas Bingo! Another Bingo has mentioned it already, but have you thought/searched about using a warehouse service? They can receive your Bingo kit in Korea and send it to Spain through cheaper shipping methods... You can even ask them to send you only the membership card if sending the entire box is too expensive. There are many services like this in Korea and most of them charge only for shipping + handling fee. It might be an option 😄🩷💚
Thank you for your help! I have never used such a service, I will investigate to see if it is possible to do it from my country. Thank you.