멀티포라의 세계는 우리가 생각햇던것 보다 훨씬 빠르게 진행되고 잇습니다.
변화의 세계에서 고정적인 생각만큼 어리석은 것은 없지요...
변화에 맞는 유연한 생각이 필요함은 두말 할 것도 없습니다
아직도 미국만 왓다주의에 쩌러 사는 한국의 반공주의 수구 꼴통들이나 ...
전략적 선택이라는 요설을 씨워 여전히 미국 왓다주의에서 한 발자국도 벗어나지 못하고 잇는 민족주의 진보 꼴통들의 꼭 같은
모습은 그냥 한숨만 나게 합니다..
무엇을 봐야 하는지...무엇을 생각해야 하는지...
어차피 우리들 스스로 결정하고 노력해야 합니다....
이런 피곤한 세상이 민주화이후의 세상인 것이니.......그걸 어짭니까??...그리 할 수 밖에..
아래글은 러이사사람들이 자신들의 미래를 어디서 찾고 잇는지를 들여다 볼 수 잇는 글입니다.
rt에서 복사햇습니다..
글의 내용은 간단합니다..
러시아의 미래가 유럽이 아닌 힌터랜드-즉 유라시아 대륙에 잇다는 ....고전적인 내용입니다..
이런 주의 주장이 한두번 나온것도 아니고
우리로 치면 ..남북 통일을 하고 만주를 실질적으로 회복 하고 따위의 흔한 담론으로 보면 될것 같습니다..
그런데 그런것 말고도 챙겨야 할 것들이 꽤 나옵니다..
유럽권 러시아인들 - 지금의 주류 러시아 인들의 시베리아와 아시아인들- 이들의 문화와 정체성에 대한 시각을
읽어 볼 수 잇고
-세종으로 수도를 옮긴다 하여 서울이 바뀌냐??....따위로 냉소 할 수 없는 많은 환경적인 변화가 잇다는 것이지요
러시아의 그 지정학적 위치의 중심은 유럽입니다...
그들은 유럽사회의 편입을 원햇고 그리 노력 하엿지만 여전히 러시아의 유럽화는 거리가 잇습니다.
문화도 체체도 서 유럽과는 여전히 이질적이고
당장이야 당연히 유럽으로의 치우침에서 벋어나기 어렵습니다...러시아의 돈과 시장 인력과 기술 모든것이 유럽쪽에
치우처잇기 때문입니다..
그런데 여기에 매우 중요한 환경의 변화가 잇어난 것이고...그들은 유럽이 아닌 유라시아를 좀더 현질적인 차원에서
생각하게 되엇다는 것이지요
이미 이런 생각의 상당한 대중화와 일반화가 진행되엇다는 것입니다.
우크라인 전쟁 덕분에 ..러시아에 대한 참 많은 정보를 접하게 되엇습니다..
무식함이 용감함입니다..
조금이라도 알고 나면 ...조심스러워 질 수 밖에 없어요.
유투버들은 대중들의 이런 무식함을 자극하여 밥 벌어 처 먹고 사는 기생충들 입니다..
대중들의 무식화로 밥 멀어 처 먹고 사는 대표적인 기생충들
대중들의 무식함은 단순화로 쉽게 유도 될 수 잇습니다..
저쐣끼 수구 꼴통이다....저 쐣끼 저쪽 편이다....라는 단순화는 대중들의 무식함을 자극 할 수 잇는 최고의 처방이지요
-청와대 에서 받아 처 먹은 뇌물이 뽀록나서 억울하게 돌아가신 우리 갱상도 교주님만 인간적이고 서민적이셧다....다른 것들은
다 개 쐣끼들--김대중은 예외 -호남표가 필요하니까..
-검찰만이 모든 악의 근원이다 ...죄 지은 놈들은 억울하고
이런 개 소리는 무식함이 아니면 약발을 받을 수 없는 실로 개 소리들인 것이지요..
무식함= 단순화= 처 먹은 뇌물이 뽀록나자 좆 같다며 되진 갱상도 교주님에 대한 종교적 광기
Sergey Karaganov: Here’s why Russia must permanently abandon Europe and turn fully to Asia
Europe is finished, and Russia’s geographical and cultural advantages means it doesn’t have to go down with the sinking ship
By Professor Sergey Karaganov, honorary chairman of Russia’s Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, and academic supervisor at the School of International Economics and Foreign Affairs Higher School of Economics (HSE) in Moscow
FILE PHOTO. Russian President Vladimir Putin drives an all-terrain vehicle during a walk in the taiga. © Sputnik/Alexey Druzhinin
At the end of the 2000s, with a group of young colleagues, we began to argue the merits and necessity of Russia’s “eastern pivot” (at the same time, current Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu – and his colleagues – were working in the same direction).
The concepts and development focus of this challenge included the whole of Siberia and the Urals – a single historical, economic and human region. However, it turned out differently – pivot to Asia and its markets went administratively mainly through the Pacific Far East, and then the Arctic was added to it.
The turn that began in the 2010s was successful, but only partially, largely because the Far East was artificially disconnected from the much more populous, industrialized and resource-rich eastern and western Siberia. It also continued to suffer from the “continental curse” – remoteness from markets.
Now, the new geostrategic situation urgently requires a return to the original idea – the eastward turn of all of Russia through the primary development of all of Siberia, including, of course, the Urals. In other words, we are talking about the “Siberization” of the whole country.(전 러시아의 시베리아화) Western Europe will be closed for many years and should never again become a first-class partner, while Asia is developing rapidly.
The war provoked and unleashed by the West in Ukraine should not distract us from the movement towards the south and the east – where the center of human development is shifting. This new, but long foreseen, situation calls us to return to our “home.” A European journey of more than 300 years has given much, but long ago – a century ago, in reality – and has exhausted its usefulness.
(The term “return home” was given to me by Professor L.E. Blyacher, a prominent philosopher and historian from Khabarovsk, during years of working together on the previous tour of the Eastern Turn.)
Without this journey, initiated by Peter the Great,(포트르 대제--러시아의 유럽화를 시도한 최초의 황제)& Russia would not have had many achievements. Foremost among them is the world’s greatest literature – the result of combining Russian culture, religion and morals with Western European culture. Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Gogol, then Blok, Pasternak(닥터 지바고의 저자), Solzhenitsyn(수용소 군도, 이반데노소비치의 하루 등의 저자) – and other giants of the mind who have shaped our modern identity – would hardly have emerged without the “European injection.”
During these three centuries, we have half-forgotten the eastern roots of our state and our people.(러시아의 적통을 유럽이 아닌 아시아에서 찾겟다는 것입니다) The Mongols plundered, but they also promoted development. Finally, in opposition and cooperation with them, we learned from many elements of their statehood, which allowed us to build a powerful centralized state and continental thinking. From Genghis Khan’s empire we also seem to have inherited our cultural, national and religious openness. The Mongols did not impose their culture or their beliefs. Indeed, they were religiously open. That is why, in an effort to preserve Russia, Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky(큐빌라이칸과의 조공관계를 확립하고 러시아의 안정을 꽤햇음) made an alliance with them.
--러시아인들의 몽골에 대한 시각입니다..
구 공산주의시절 징기스칸과 몽골은 제국주의자 침략주의자 파괴자등등의 이미지가 훨씬 강햇지만..
오늘날의 역사 학자들은 - 동서 구분없이, 자유 진영 공산진영 구분 업이 징기스칸의 몽고를 다시 해석 하고 잇습니다.
그중 하나가...몽골의 종교적 문화적 포용성 입니다.....이는 그간의 침략와 파괴 약탈의 심볼처럼 생각되는 몽골 과는 정 반대의 해석입니다.
Great Russia would not have come into being, and probably would not have survived on the Russian plain, besieged by rivals and enemies from the west and south, if our people had not moved en masse “behind the stone” (the Urals) “to meet the sun” from the 16th century onwards. Inexplicable, apart from the intervention of God’s will, is the speed of their impulse. The Cossacks reached the Great Ocean in six decades.
The development of Siberia made the ancient Rus’, the Russian kingdom, into Great Russia. Even before it was proclaimed an empire, the resources of Siberia – first “soft gold,” then silver, gold, and other minerals – allowed us to create and equip a powerful army and navy. The caravans of the Northern Silk Road, carrying Chinese goods in exchange for furs to Russia and beyond, played an important role in this. There in Siberia, the Russians, competing and trading, began to work closely with the Central Asians, the ‘Bukharans’ as our people called them at the time.
Siberia powerfully strengthened the best in the Russian character – cultural and national openness, plus willpower, Russian freedom, and immense courage. Siberia was ruled by people of dozens of nationalities, intertwined with the local population. And, of course, collectivism (집산주의)– without mutual aid it was impossible to survive and defeat space and the elements. This is how the Siberian was created – a concentration of the best in the Russian man – Russian Russians, Russian Tatars, Russian Buryats, Russian Yakuts, Russian Chechens, and the list goes on. The prominent Tyumen journalist and writer Omelchuk calls Siberia “the brew of the Russian character.”
-그들이 말 하는 러시아의 정체성입니다....편협한 19세기 유럽의 민족주의-종자주의- 유산 따위로는 설명 될 수 없는 훨씬더 크고 다양한 정체성입니다.
The achievement of the best of the elite – Witte, Stolypin and their associates – and the people, who built the Trans-Siberian Railway in the shortest possible time, is unprecedented. They marched both under the old slogan “Towards the Sun” and under the new slogan reflecting a concrete and majestic goal – “Forward to the Great Ocean.” Now there should be a new slogan: “Forward to Greater Eurasia.”
미국인들의 서부 대 약탈이 프런티어 정신으로 꾸며지듯이
러시아의 시베리아 확장도 그런식으로 생각하면 될 듯 합니다.
태양을 향하여--> 대양을 향하여 ---.> 위대한 유라시아의 향하여
다른소리가 학교 다닐때는 공산주의 소련 시절이엇습니다..
공산주의에 관련된 모든것이 악마화 되고 저주 받던 시절이엇고 러시아의 시베리아 친출도 일본의 조선의 병합과 꼭 같은 제국의 확창으로 배웟습니다...
그러면서도 자유 민주주의 체체인 대영제국의 식민지 확창에 대해서는 ..해가 지지 않는 위대한 나라라는 찬양찬송질을 배웟습니다.
러시아의 시배리아 확창은 모피장사로 돈을 벌기 위한 확창으로 배웟고 코작군의 원주민에 대한 폭력은 반드시 언급 되엇습니다.
그러면서도 미국 백인들의 원주민들에 대한 사냥은 ...야만인을 문명화 시키기 위한 어쩔 수 없는 조치라고 배웟지요..
그들이 백인들의 문명화가 없엇다면 ...여전히 사냥이나 처 하면서 아프리카 원시인들 처럼 살앗을 것이다.....는 으름장은 꼭 들어 갓지요.+ 예수님 할렐루야..
We should be grateful for their work and sacrifice, as well as for the work of those who went to Siberia not of their own free will. Both convicts and prisoners of the Gulag made a huge, not fully appreciated, contribution to the development of the country.
There was a spiritual project of Soviet Arctic exploration, great Komsomol construction sites in Siberia where representatives of all the peoples of the Soviet Union worked hand-in-hand, made friends and started families. Siberian oil, grain, fur coats, horses from Mongolia, Buryatia and Tuva and, of course, Siberian regiments played a decisive role in the victory that saved Moscow in the Great Patriotic War (World War II). ...독일 중부집단군의 모스크바 공격을 막아낸 시배리아 군인들의 확약을 말 한 것입니다..
이들은 이미 일본과의 전투에서 실전 경험까지 갖춘 특히 겨울전쟁에 도통한 군인들로...이들의 반격으로 모스크바 진격은 사실상 물거품이 되엇고...히틀러가 구상햇던 전격전은 지리한 소모전으로 사실상 바꿧습니다)
Then came Siberian oil and gas.
But of course Siberia’s main contribution to the all-Russian treasury is its people – brave, tenacious, strong, enterprising. They are the embodiment of the Russian spirit. It is necessary not only to promote the resettlement of Russians from the center (including from the reunited territories) to Siberia, but also to call on Siberians with their experience and outlook, with a sense of proximity to Asia, to lead the country.------흠..느낌이 어떻습니까??....
Generations of our fellow citizens who developed Siberia were enabling the markets of the future in Asia and transforming Russia into a great Eurasian power. Although they didn’t realize it at the time.
The confrontation unleashed by the West, added to the processes of social disintegration taking place there, stimulated by the elites, and the long-term slowdown in the development of Western Europe, clearly show that Russia’s future lies in the East, in the South, where the center of the world is shifting.
And Russia, with its unique culture and openness,(러시아의 개방성??....가장 먼저 공산주의를 받아들인 나라가 러시아 입니다...볼세기피 혁명이 일어난 곳이 러시아 이지...유럽이 아니라고) is called to become an important part of this transformation, and to be one of its leaders. Indeed, to become what fate, God, and the deeds of generations of our ancestors have predestined it to be – Northern Eurasia. Its balancer, its military-strategic pivot, its guarantor of the renaissance of its previously oppressed cultures, countries and civilizations, free from dictates.
We are witnessing the birth of a new world. In many ways, we have become its midwife, having knocked out the foundation of 500 years of European-Western hegemony – its military superiority.
Now we are repelling what we hope will be the last assault of the declining West, which, having suffered a strategic defeat in the fields of Ukraine, is trying to turn back history. We must win this battle – even by threatening and, if necessary, using the most brutal means. This is necessary not only for the victory of the country, but also to prevent the world from sliding into World War III.
But, I repeat, the struggle with the West should not distract us from the most important creative tasks. And among them – the new development and rise of the entire east of the country. Not only the development of geo-economics, geopolitics, but also the inevitable climate change in the coming decades will dictate, on the one hand, the necessity, and on the other hand, prove the possibility and advantage, of proposing and vigorously implementing a new Siberian turn by all Russia, shifting the center of its spiritual, human and economic development to the east.
기후의 변화로 매년 러시아에서는 한국땅 만한 경작지가 만들어지고 잇지요...문제는 사람이 없다는 것이지요.
The mineral resources of Siberia, its rich lands, forests, abundance of clean fresh water, are called to become one of the main foundations of Eurasian development, using modern technologies and, above all, Siberian people. And our task is to keep Siberia in our hands and develop it for the benefit of our citizens, the country and the whole of humanity. So far, we have been supplying mainly resources with a low level of processing. The task is to create all-Russian, full-cycle production complexes under the regulatory role of the state. It is necessary to rebuild the Siberian machine-building industry on a modern basis, taking advantage of the flow of orders to defense enterprises.
All Russian administrative centers – ministries, legislative bodies, headquarters of large corporations – should move in the same direction, followed by patriotic and, in the best sense of the word, ambitious young people. If Peter were alive today, he would certainly have founded a new capital in Siberia and greatly expanded the window to Asia.(우리로 치면 세종시 만든것으로 보면 될 것 같습니다) Along with Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia desperately needs a third, Siberian capital. The military-strategic situation that will develop in the coming decades demands it.
I know that the residents of the Urals and Trans-Urals, many of whom carry the fiery spirit of their ancestors – great explorers – wish for Russia’s revival and prosperity, including through the prioritized development of Siberia.
Unfortunately, many of them, seeing no prospects and opportunities to apply their ambitions and skills, are leaving for the well-developed central regions or are quietly “burning out” in small towns and villages in the eastern part of the country.
It is in our power and interest to use this colossal human capital to destroy unnecessary bridges between the Siberian hinterland, the large administrative centers and the rest of Russia, and to reunite the great geographical and civilizational axis of history. The reorientation of the self-awareness and thinking of all our compatriots, the unity with the glorious Siberian past, present and future in the interests of the whole country will certainly find an echo in the hearts of the Siberians themselves. I repeat, we need a Siberian strategy for the whole of Russia, not just for the Urals, Siberia and the Far East.
The strategy should start not so much with dry economic calculations, although the existing ones are more than convincing – Novosibirsk scientists are exceptional – but with the spiritual and cultural return of the magnificent, breathtaking history of the exploration of Asian Russia to the center of Russian identity.--아시안 러시아인들의 기게와 문화가 러시아 정체성의 중심이 되어야 한다........흠..
The history of Siberia, full of romance, triumphs and adventures, should be a part of every patriot of our country. The conquest of the American West, which everyone knows about, is a pale shadow of the series of exploits of our ancestors. At the same time, they did not resort to genocide, but intermarried with the natives. And we, the masses of people and even intellectuals, are almost ignorant of this history.(이런것에서는 더 많은 선전이 필요한듯 보입니다..)
What is the value of Alexander Nevsky’s one-and-a-half-year campaign in the late 1240s through Central Asia and Southern Siberia to the capital of the Mongol Empire, Karakorum, for the purpose of receiving an award for ruling at a higher level than Batyev. Khubilai Khan, known to us from Marco Polo’s tales, who would soon become the unifying emperor of China was also there at the time. They almost certainly met. It is probably with Alexander Nevsky’s campaign that we should begin the story of the exploration of Siberia and of Russian-Chinese relations, now de facto allies, which were to become the foundation of the new world order.----우리로 치면 단군 신화를 만들어 가듯이 자신들의 새로운 정체성을 만들어 가는 과정으로 읽으면 됩니다.
New meridional routes should be built, connecting southern Siberia with the Northern Sea Route, leading to China and through it to Southeast Asia. The Urals and western regions of Siberia should be given effective access to India, other countries of South Asia and the Middle East. Encouragingly, work has finally begun, albeit belatedly, on the railway that will link Russia, including the Siberian regions, to the Indian Ocean via Iran.
It is necessary to develop Siberia with its water resources, involving water-scarce, but labor-abundant Central Asian countries.
The wider shortage of labor should be partly compensated by the mass attraction of hard-working and disciplined North Koreans. We are finally getting out of foolishly following the Western line on the DPRK and restoring friendly relations. I know that India and Pakistan are interested in providing at least seasonal workers.
-상당히 재미잇지요??
드미트리 페스코프 크렘린궁 대변인은 장기간 이어지고 있는 대북 제재에 관한 질문에 “러시아는 UN 안전보장이사회에서의 입장을 유지하고 있지만, 그렇다고 해서 이 점이 향후 러시아와 북한 관계의 발전을 방해할 수는 없으며, 방해하지도 않을 것”이라고 답했다
지난해 보스토치니 에서의 김정일과 푸틴간의 정상회담때의 나온 말입니다.
우크라인 전쟁에 사용할 포탄을 주고 미사일 기술을 받앗다는 식의 서구 주류 언론들의 개 소리만 줄창 해석하여
나발 거리는 것 말고도 또 다른 것이 잇다는 것이지요.
We at the National Research University Higher School of Economics, together with the Institute of Economics and Industrial Production Organization of the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, other institutes of the Siberian and Far Eastern Branches of the Academy of Sciences, universities of Tomsk, Barnaul, Khabarovsk, Krasnoyarsk, are starting a project to justify the project Turn to the East – 2 – towards the Siberization of Russia.
We also need a national program for the development of Oriental studies, knowledge of Oriental languages, peoples and cultures in schools. Uniquely, culturally and religiously open Russia has a huge competitive advantage here, inherited from its ancestors who, unlike the Europeans, did not enslave and destroy but absorbed local peoples and cultures as they moved eastwards.(이런것도 쌩 까고 잇네....제국의 확창에 어찌 폭력이 없겟나...식으로 냉소할 것만도 아니고...
이들의 확창과전에 폭력과 착취가 없엇다고는 말 할 수 없겟지만 ... 분명한 것은 .. 미영프등 유럽 제국주의 국가들이 저질럿던 이 갈리는 인종 청소나 파괴 노예화 등등이 없엇다고는 할 수 잇다는 것이지요..
그런식으로 이해 하면 될 것 같습니다)
Sun Tzu, Confucius, Kautilya (or Vishnugupta), Rabindranath Tagore, Ferdowsi, King Darius, Tamerlane, al-Khozremi (the founder of algebra), Abu Ali ibn Sina (Avicenna – the founder of medical science) or Fatima al-Fihri – the founder of the world’s first university – should be as familiar to an educated Russian as Alexander the Great, Galileo, Dante, Machiavelli or Goethe. We need to understand the essence not only of Orthodox Christianity, but also of Islam and Buddhism. All these religions and spiritual movements are already present in our spiritual memory. We just need to preserve and develop them.
In addition, with the inevitable climate change in the coming decades, Siberia will expand the area of comfortable habitat. Nature itself is inviting us to a new Siberian eastward shift of Russia. I repeat once again, by creating and implementing the program of Russia’s eastward shift, we are not only returning to the source of our power and greatness, but we are also opening new horizons for ourselves and future generations, we are creating and implementing the reborn Russian dream: the aspiration for the greatness of the country, prosperity and will – Russian freedom, to embody the best in us – the Russian spirit.
(이런식의 주의 주장의 말미는 항상 국가 민족 애국으로 끝납니다..............
이 글도 그런 것에서 예외는 아니지만...충분히 읽어볼 만한 내용입니다)
This article was first published by Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper, translated and edited by the RT team