하츠오브아이언 뜻

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미국인 및 유럽인들이 어떻게 생각하나 질문한번 올려봤습니다.
히믈러의 연설에서 나왔다는 말도 있고
미국,독일에서 주던
the Purple Heart and the Iron Cross란 훈장에서
따왔다는 사람도 있고
그래도 저번에 어떤 분이 말하던
강심장이란 뜻이 우세하네요

몇몇 사람들은
Buttocks of Steel"? 강철로 만들어진 엉덩이나
rubber of dick 고무로 만들어진 꼬-_-추는 왜안되냐고 되묻네요 ㅋㅋㅋ

추신
히믈러가 제 3제국이 승리하기위해서 동정-연미이 없는
hearts of iron을 가져야한다고 연설한적있나요?



Hello all,

I am not quite sure what "Heartsof Iron" means...
Literally speaking and figuratively speaking,
what does this term imply?

Please give me some insights

Have a happy Thanksgiving!!


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Happy thanks giving to you too.

I recall a thread a loooong looooooong time ago in Paradox forums about the same question. I think it was posted even before the game was released. The problem is that i do not remember the answer
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Dre
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Hiya!

It could be a combination of the two, both American and German, medals best known during the conflict: the Purple Heart and the Iron Cross. Combined they could make Hearts of Iron hehehe.
Or maybe I am full of sh*t and really have no clue at all

Grtz!





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Yeah, why?
Why not "Buttocks of Steel"?





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Or dicks of rubber?





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I would think the meaning of the word is that the brave men and women who fought WW2, had to have their Hearts made of Iron......they fought the worrst war in history.
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My guess is that it's a veiled refrence to Bismarck's "Blood and Steel" speaches from the previous century.
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I think it comes from a quote by some ww2 celebrity.
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Sorry, just caught up with this thread.

I think(!) it's taken from an address that Himmler gave to his aspiring SS leaders. Essentially he said that in order for them to become the heroes the Reich needed they had to sacrifice their natural human feelings (like compassion, pity, and mercy) and develop 'hearts of iron'.

I'll check my sources and get back to confirm‎ or otherwise.





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Next time you play HOI take a good look at the loading screen. The one that says Hearts of Iron on top. You will see a small group of soldiers getting up from their foxholes and walking across the open field.

Now imagine that you are one of those soldiers. You also know that enemy soldiers are waiting on the side of the open field. Imagine how much your own heart would be thumping. You would need a heart of iron to walk across that field. Hence the name.

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[하라크티]

음.... 영어군요 -_-;;;

[로버트 굴드 쇼]

글을 보다보니 참..메이치 초기때 일본사람들이 영어의 데모크라시나 리퍼블릭 저스티스 등을 어떻게 해석해야할지 밤을 새며 고심했다던 장면들이 떠오르는 군요..

[김지수]

18세미만 열람 불가자료 판정!

[무령]

전 마지막 리플 예기는 들어본 기억이 없네요. 위의 답변중에 몇개는 원츄! 그리고, 예전에도 같은 질문이 있었다는 사람은 뭔지... 역시 세계화일까? 아니면, 귀차니즘은 만국 공통의 인터넷 문화일까라는 생각이...-_-;

[yualian]

마지막 리플은 정말 강추군요 -_-;;

[올리바레스]

오.. 마지막 리플이 심정적으로 동감이 가네요^^;; 아직 HOI를 제대로 못했지만 시작 화면은 많이 본;;;

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ㅋㅋ 제가 이메일을 열어봤는데...(또하나의 리플이 달렸다고하네요) 마지막리플에 관한..어느 분이 쓴 반박글 The picture shows US Army soldiers or marines ready/preparing for action in a very naked terrain. An Pacific island? But in fact, it can mean anything!!!

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솔직히...반박글이 더 강추...ㅡ,.ㅡㅋ