naked captitalism 의 이브 스미스의 글입니다.
서구 주류언론에서 왜 갑자기 우크라인 소식이 확 줄어 들어버렷냐....그 이유로
그들이 원하는 방향으로 전쟁이 진행되고 잇지 않기 때문이라고..........빈정 거린 글입니다.
글에서 언급되는 구체적인 무기 체체나 작전은 모르겟습니다....알고 싶지도 않고
분명한 것은 서방측의 예상되로 되고 잇지 않다는 것입니다.
러시아나 우크라인이나...모두 자본주의 국가 입니다..
특정 진영의 편을 들고 싶은 생각 눈꼽 만큼도 없고,
러시아의 침공에 대해 지지하고 싶은 생각 없습니다.
하지만 전쟁이 터졋다면,
최소한 왜 그런 전쟁이 터지게 되엇는지 분명한 이유와 전쟁이 어떻게 진행되고 잇는지에 대한 사실 보도 정도는
나와줘야 한다는 것입니다.
--매우 복잡한 근원과 사리사욕을 고려하지 않고 복잡한 상황을 좋은 사람과 나쁜 사람의 구분으로 바꾸는 것에 반대한다.
우리는 러시아 군대의 격렬함과 잔인함을 목격하고 잇지만..우리는 근원 문제들을 잊어서는 안 되며, 그것들을 해결하려고 노력해야 한다......................교황..프렌치스코
아직도 푸틴이 미쳣다.....러시아가 죽 쓰고 잇다......이딴 말이나 씨불리고 잇는 국내 언론은 증말 쫌 정신쫌 차렷쓰면 좋겟써..
뽕 처 먹은 쇄끼들도 아니고..
Russia’s Campaign in Ukraine: Nearing an Inflection Point?
by Yves Smith
Notice how the amount of Western reporting on Ukraine has fallen off dramatically? That’s because the war is going well for Russia and its allies.
우크라이나에 대한 서방언론의 보도량이 어떻게 이렇게 극적으로 감소했는가? 그것은 전쟁이 러시아와 그 동맹국들에게 잘 진행되고 있기 때문이다.
Russia is continuing its steady and systematic grind through Donbass. However, Russia has also picked up the pace of its shelling, has moved some of its best equipment into Ukraine, presumably pre-positioning, and just had the head of its Ministry of Defense, Sergey Shoigu, visit key commanders in Donbass. Not only did Shoigu state that Russia would put an end to the Ukraine shelling of civilian targets in Donetsk, but also “gave the necessary instructions for further buildup of the troops actions in all operational directions.” In concert, Russia has moved its most advanced armor to the front lines en masse (see here at 42:45)
Part of this effort to stop the Ukraine shelling of civilians is recent and large uptick in Russian ballistic missile attacks.(우크라인은 러시아의 이런 공격을 우크라인 민간에 대한 공격이라고 선전 선동전을 펼처 왓습니다) Jacob Dreizen (please filter out the Trumpian views for the comments on weaponry) describes starting at 14:10 of his latest video how the Ukrainians are so low on artillery that they are forced to use it strategically and are sending off 1-2 big salvos a day, targeting Russian ammo dumps behind the lines, with some effect. However, other Russia-friendly sources have claimed that Ukraine has been using Western munitions, including the HIMARS, to shell civilians in Donbass. Per Dreizen, Ukraine uses their Tochka-U’s to tie up Russian missile defenses and then send some HIMARS and a few get through.
Russia, which had stopped the active use of the Tochka-U’s to deploy the more advanced Iskanders, has pulled its Tochka-U’s out of mothballs to respond, at least tripling its ballistic missile capability. Dreizen says that Russia used to fire 3-4 Iskanders daily and in the last 2-4 days is now sending off 10 Tochka-U’s a day plus the Iskanders. Per Dreizen:
‘Alright, America, you’re sending these HIMARS. We’re still gonna beat you. We have ten times as much stuff as you can possibly send to the Ukraine.’…..What’s gonna happen to the HIMARS is they’re gonna get destroyed just like the howitzers were destroyed.
Military Summary also confirms a shift in Russian priorities (see at 6:30), with reduced shelling in Donbass and a big increase in Mykolaiv and near Kharkiv.
In parallel, Russia also blew up a meeting between some senior Ukraine military officers and foreign weapons dealers, with total dead estimated in the hundreds. While many observers would contend that the arms merchants are not combatants and deliberately killing them amounts to a war crime, the Russian position is presumably otherwise, since they are taking credit for this kill. From RIA Novosti, via machine translation:
The strike of Kalibr high-precision sea-based missiles on the House of Officers in Vinnitsa destroyed the participants of the meeting of the command of the Ukrainian Air Force with representatives of foreign arms suppliers, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.
“On July 14, high-precision sea-based Caliber missiles struck the building of the garrison House of Officers in the city of Vinnytsia. At the time of the strike, a meeting of the command of the Ukrainian Air Force with representatives of foreign arms suppliers was held at this military facility on the transfer of the next batch of aircraft, weapons, weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as organizing the repair of the Ukrainian aviation fleet,” the report says.
This action may also be a sighting shot against CIA and NATO operations in Ukraine. It also may be to give the West a taste of what might happen if they are so reckless as to let Ukraine get some of those 300km range HIMARS missiles that Ukraine has been begging for. There have been quite a few reports on the Ukraine innertubes demonstrating the government’s lust to take out the Kerch Bridge that connects Crimea to Russia. They’ve made clear they want the longer-range missiles to do so (the US so far has given Ukraine only the 70km missiles precisely because they don’t trust Ukraine not to hit targets in Russia). I am highly confident that Russia has a very clear idea of the sort of missile hell it would unleash were that to occur.
In the last few days, the Russian Security Council also met and issued an unusually uncommunicative summary.
To step back and put this in context, keep in mind that commentators keep focusing on Russian progress in terms of capturing territory, when that is not Russia’s primary goal. It is to destroy Ukraine’s ability to wage war. Thus while some Western accounts have fixated on the idea that Russia has or hasn’t taken Bakhmut, Russia is more interested in getting fire or actual control of key roads and railroads to deny resupply and better yet, encircle troops so they can capture them or at worse, lead them to flee, abandoning materiel.
Accounts in the last few days indicate that Russia is destroying Ukraine units and soldiers at an accelerating pace, with some credible experts putting daily deaths at the end of last week at well over 1000. Even if that pace of destruction is not maintained, it points to a fighting force that is crumbling.
Russia forces took control of all of Lugansk on July 3, taking Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk faster than even Russia-favoring commentators had forecast. Russia has now been moving forces so as to achieve the final goal in taking Donetsk, that of capturing Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. Once that is done, Russia will have freed the Donbass.
On the Ukraine side, the body language is the polar opposite. Zelensky has launched a purge, accusing officials right and left of collaboration with Russia. This could be somewhat or very much true, since a coup attempt is long overdue and the rebels would likely be more willing to consider a deal with Russia. However, Zelensky could also be searching for scapegoats, since it’s been clear for some time that the long-promised August and/or Kherson counter-offensives are na ga happen. Aside from the fact that Ukraine has yet to stage an offensive where it recaptured and held territory and it’s now reduced to having to conscript old men and women to refill its depleted army, Russia has such command over Ukraine that it’s impossible to train a sizable force and not have it subjected to Russian missile attack.
Speculation among Western sources that read Russian or have good Russian contacts (see the Larry Johnson-Andrei Martyanov-Alexander Mercouris roundtable, hosted by Gonzalo Lira, as an example) is that Russia will pause after it has secured Donbass and will deliver its conditions for a peace to Ukraine. These are certain to be unacceptable since the bare minimum ask will be conceding the loss of Donbass and Crimea (and let us not forget neutrality and denazification too). The West of course will flatly reject it. That’s fine by Russia since it would not trust any deal with Ukraine or the West as far as it could throw it.
The point of this offer at the point of securing the first objective of the Special Military Operation is to play to China, India, the global South, and secondarily to the more cautious and war-averse members of the Russian citizenry, that Russia going beyond the narrowest implementation of the SMO was not due to Russia wanting to take more territory, but being forced to do so to achieve its additional goals of demilitarization and denazificaition. If Ukraine and its allies won’t do so voluntarily, Russia will by force.
The Military Summary channel has observed that once Russia secures Donbass, there are no major lines of defense to the west until the Dnieper. That may also explain the claim he made in his latest report (at 12:50), that Zelensky told the troops in Donass that the US told him if they lose the so-called Zaluzny defense line (Kramatorsk and Sloviansk are on this line) that it would be considered to be the total collapse of Ukraine forces and no more Western support would be forthcoming.
I doubt that politically that the US can totally abandon Ukraine but they can certainly send only eyewash, and more importantly, stop funding the Ukraine government, which has become a money pit.
The remaining major troop concentration is around Kiev. The question is what Russia does next.
My belief is still that Russia will give priority to taking Odessa unless there are logistical considerations that argue against that. The Ukraine military is so close to collapse that Russian forces going to Odessa sooner rather than later is a real possibility. It’s the psychologically most important target for the Russian people, and economically more valuable than Kiev.
The West would recognize that Russia getting control of what was Ukraine’s entire Black Sea coast as an enormous loss.
I suspect what Russia decides to do with or about Ukraine to the west of the Dnieper is event dependent. However, the West has decided to tie itself even more tightly to the Ukraine albatross. I had said to Lambert that it was not impossible for Russia to have decisively won (as in taken Odessa) by sometime in October, but even with the Western forces clearly unable to rout Russia, that Europe and the US would keep its citizens cold and hungry this winter just to spite Russia.
It’s already official. From TASS:
The EU will not withdraw the sanctions, imposed on Russia over the situation in Ukraine, if Moscow and Kiev sign peace treaty on Russia’s terms, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in his article for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagzeitung, published Sunday.
“The part of the new reality is that the EU has also consolidated. It has reacted to the Russian aggression quite unanimously and imposed unprecedentedly harsh sanctions,” Scholz said. “We knew it from the start that we will potentially have to keep these sanctions for a long time.”
“And it is also clear that not a single one of these sanctions will be withdrawn in case of peace, dictated by Russia,” he continued. “There is no other path for an agreement with Ukraine for Russia than the one that could be accepted by the Ukrainians.”
It does not seem to occur to Sholtz that even Ukrainians who are not that keen about Russia would choose having Russian or Russian-lite rule over the West’s plan of fighting to the last Ukrainian. It also seems likely that Russia will hold referendums, again to legitimate its actions in the court of non-collective-West opinion. But of course those will be deemed to be bogus even if the most reputable independent observers say otherwise.
So this is not going to end well for the West. But you knew that already if you were paying attention.
제3자로써 다른소리가 답답한것은,,
우쿠라인 지도부는 정말 러시아와 전쟁을 하여 자신들이 이길 것이라고 생각햇을까요??
러시아와의 전쟁만이 우크라인의 자본심과 국익을 지키는 최고의 길이라도 생각 햇을까요??
왜 두둘겨 패는 깡패놈에게는 암 말도 않 하고....두둘겨 처 맞은 놈에게만 븅쉰쇗끼라고 하냐고??
왜 그런 깡패놈을 계속 건들지요??
2014년 쿠테타가 없엇다면, 크리미아 반도가 러시아 땅이 될 일 도 없엇을 것이고
자신들도 서명한 민스크 협정을 준수 햇다면, 지금의 전쟁도 없엇을 것입니다..
겨우 짱돌 몇개 갖고 잇다며, 왜 기관총 갖고 잇는 깡패에게 기어코 그 총 쏴보라고 건드냐고??.....
븅쉰쇗끼들도 아니고..
정치 지도부의 잘못된 오판으로 한 나라를 완전히 붕괴시켜 버린 이런 책임은 어떻게 추궁되어야 하지요??
이 븅쉰쇗끼는...어쩧던 미제놈들을 끌여 들인 운이라도 잇엇고...그래서 영토라도 똔똔으로 보존 햇지만..
우크라인은 어떻게 할꺼야..
한국 전쟁을 통해......우리는 도무지 다시는 하나 될 수 없는 철쩌한 원수가 되엇다...
한국인들에게 북괴놈들 보다 더 싫어 하는 사람들 잇나?? ..
아...북한 인민들은 안 싫어 하고...김정은만 싫어 한다고??
참 개소리를 잘도 지줘 된다..............미친개 쐣끼들..
우크라인 전쟁으로 우크라인 민족주의라는 광기 말고 ...무엇이 남을까??
참혹하게 망가저 버린 대지 위에...지천에 나부러저잇는 시체더미 위에 ..우리 우크라인 민족만 왓다...는 광란으로 도대체 뭘 어떻게 한다는 것이지??