【트럼프】 조지아 주무장관과의 통화 내용 및 상원의원 결선 투표에서 또 사라진 5만7천표

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조지아 상원의원 투표에서 또 사라진 5만7천표

【트럼프】 조지아 주무장관과의 통화 내용 

도널드 트럼프 대통령은 조지아주 상원의원 선거를 앞두고 1월 2일(토) 조지아주 주무장관인 브래드 라펜스퍼거(Brad Raffensperger)와 통화를 했는데, 그 통화가 녹음되어 워싱턴포스트(WP)에 전달됐다.

워싱턴포스트(WP)는 3일 단독으로 트럼프 대통령과 브래드 라펜스퍼거 조지아 주무장관과의 통화 내용을 공개했다. 워싱턴포스트(WP)는 라펜스퍼거의 사무실 관리들이 토요일에 트럼프 대통령과의 통화를 녹음했다고 전했다. 

라펜스퍼거는 토요일 트럼프 대통령과 전화 통화 후 곧 워싱턴포스트(WP)에 이 녹취록을 유출했다. 물론 그는 자신이 녹음을 하지도 않았고 유출하지 않았다고 부인하고 있다. 

라펜스퍼거 주무장관은 11월 3일에 치뤄진 부정 투표에 대해 그 동안 세 차례나 재검표를 했지만 숫자만 세었을 뿐, 서명 대조 확인을 제대로 하지 않았다는 비판을 받아왔다. 

그런데 트럼프 대통령이 전화를 걸어서 재검표를 해달라는 압박을 했다며 언론 플레이를 하므로, 공화당 지지자들은 더 이상 그를 신뢰하지 않을 뿐만 아니라, 같은 공화당원이라서 좀 봐주고 싶어도 이젠 봐줄 수 없게 됐다.

그는 11월 선거 직후 국면 전환을 모색하기 위하여 린지 그레이엄 상원 의원이 전화를 걸어 압력을 가했다고 언론에 제보했다는 의혹도 받고 있기 때문이다.

그가 트럼프 대통령과 대화한 녹취록를 전달받은 WP는 그것을 그대로 게재했다. 그러나 늘 그래왔듯이 쓰레기 언론과 유튜버들은 앞뒤 중요한 것은 다 자르고 편집해서 마치 트럼프 대통령이 정말로 그에게 협박한 것처럼 꾸몄다. 

물론 쓰레기 언론들은 대통령이 승자를 바꾸기 위한 구실로 라펜스퍼거에게 협박 전화를 했다는 등의 거짓말을 퍼나르기에 바빴다.

언론사들은 "제목"을 매우 중요하게 생각한다. 사람들이 자극적인 제목을 보면 기사를 보거나 듣기 때문에 언론들은 앞다투어 자극적인 제목을 뽑는 것이다. 그걸 모르는 대중들은 제목만 보고 그것이 진짜인 줄로 착각한다.

이번에도 마찬가지였다. 워싱턴포스트(WP)를 비롯한 쓰레기 언론들은 쓰레기를 치우는 것이 아니라 쓰레기를 방방곡곡에 쏟아붓느라 바빴다.

워싱턴포스트(WP)가 "절박한 트럼프가 조지아 주무장관을 어르고 달래다 종국엔 협박까지 하면서 선거 결과 뒤집기를 강요했다"라는 기사를 올렸고, 한국의 쓰레기 언론사들도 쓰레기를 퍼날랐다. 쓰레기 언론사이므로 쓰레기밖에 나올 수가 없는 것이다.

워싱턴포스트에 녹취록이 유출됐다는 소식을 들은 트럼프 대통령은 그날 통화 내용을 3일(월) 트위터에 올렸다.

"어제 나는 브래드 라펜스퍼거 주무장관과 풀턴 카운티와 조지아주 유권자들의 표가 뒤바뀌는 우편투표 부정행위에 대해 말했다. 조지아 주무장관은, '탁자 밑에서 나온 표'에 대한 질문에 대답하지 못했으며, 표 폐기, 다른 주의 투표자, 사망한 투표자에 대한 질문에 대답을 기피했고, 하지도 못했다. 그는 아무 것도 모른다"

워싱턴포스트(WP)는 트럼프 죽이기에만 혈안이 되어서 신나게 글을 올렸으나, 피자게이트를 최초로 보도한 잭 포소비크(Jack Posobiec) 수사팀은, 백악관이 라펜스퍼거의 스파이 행위 위반과 관련하여, 국가 안보상의 이유로 조사하기 위해 그를 기소할 것을 고려하고 있다고 그의 트윗에서 다음과 같이 말했다.

"백악관은 스파이법 국가 안보 근거 하에 비밀경호국에 브래드 라펜스퍼거의 워싱턴포스트 유출건 수사 의뢰를 계획중이다"

이는, 라펜스퍼거가 언론에 대통령과의 대화를 폭로한 것이 간첩법 위반이 될 수 있다는 것이다. 그러나 라펜스퍼거는 자신이 통화 내용을 녹음한 사실을 부인했고, 그 당시 여러 사람들이 그 통화에 참여했으므로 문제될 것이 없다며 자신의 혐의를 부인했다.

그러나 미국의 주법과 연방법에 따르면, 대화를 녹음할 때에 녹음하는 사람이 대화하는 자에게 자신이 말하는 것이 녹음되고 있다는 것을 알려주어야 한다.

이러한 사실에 대해 조지아주의 데이비드 퍼듀 상원의원은, 라펜스퍼거 사무실이 녹취록을 언론에 넘긴 것에 대해 "나는 공화당 의원이 현직 대통령과의 통화내용을 녹음한 다음, 그것을 유출한 것에 대하여 충격을 받았습니다. 역겹습니다"라고 밝혔다.

악인들이 대통령을 죽이기 위하여 또는 자기만 살기 위하여 그것을 유출시켰으나, 그 내용을 보면 조지아주를 비롯한 미국의 대선에서 민주당이 얼마나 사기를 쳤는지, 그리고 라펜스퍼거가 얼마나 미련한 지에 대해 적나라하게 드러난다.

그래서 그들의 생각과 반대로 오히려 정직한 자를 주께서 인도하시며 거짓말하는 미련한 자들은 자기들이 돌린 굴에 자기들이 깔려죽게 된다는 것을 다시 한번 확인하게 된다.

트럼프 대통령과의 전화는 약 1시간 정도인데, 앞부분만 올린다. 전체 영어로 된 내용은 이글의 뒷 부분에서 읽을 수 있다.

🔹트럼프 대통령과 라펜스퍼거 주무장관과의 통화 내용

▪️트럼프 대통령: 정말 고맙습니다. 브래드와 라이언과 모든 분들, 시간을 내 주고 전화해주어서 고맙습니다. 조지아 주 문제에 대해 많은 시간을 썼는데, 명백한 숫자 몇 개를 일단 집고 넘어갑시다.

우리가 이겼습니다. 우리가 이겼다는 증거입니다. 크게 이겼지요, 조지아에서요. 솔직히 여러분이 유세 사이즈만 보아도 알지 않습니까? 내가 유세할 때에는 2만 5천이나 3만 명이 모이고, 상대방 측에는 100명도 안 나왔습니다. 따라서 말이 안 됩니다.

우리는 몇 가지가 있는데, 적어도 25만~30만 표가 말도 안되게 추가가 되었고, 풀튼 카운티에서 많은 일이 일어났습니다. 서명 확인을 안 했잖습니까? 서명 확인을 제대로 한다면, 풀튼 카운티에서 적어도 수십만 개의 위조 서명이 나올 겁니다. 서명을 위조한 사람들의 서명들 말입니다. 확인하면, 그럴 거라고 확신합니다.

또 다른 것으로는 엄청난 게 있습니다. 앞으로 이틀에 걸쳐 정확한 숫자가 나올 건데, 정확한 숫자는 나오겠지만 약 5만 개 입니다. 이 숫자는 사람들이 투표하러 갔는데, 벌써 투표했다고 해서 투표를 못하고 온 사람들의 숫자입니다.

정말 슬픈 일입니다. 그래서 그들은 투표를 못하고 나와서 항의를 했는데, 지금 말한 숫자는 대략적인 숫자이고, 현재 격차인 11,779보다 훨씬 많습니다. 내 생각에 이것은 브래드(주무장관)도 동의할 것 같은데, 아마 모두들 동의할 겁니다.

11,779표 차이라고 하는 것은 표 격차가 그만큼 이었고, 우리는 수십만 표... 더 정확한 숫자를 드리겠지만, 그렇게 많이도 필요없습니다. 득표 격차가 표면상으로는 11,779표차로 졌다고 하니까요.

11월 3일에 투표하러 갔는데, 투표를 하지 못하고 온 사람들이 많지 않습니까? 그 사람들 이름으로 벌써 투표가 이루어져서 말입니다. 여러분이 알다시피 정말 너무 너무 슬픈 일입니다.

그리고 4,502명이 투표 명부에 없는 유권자들이었습니다. 4,502명이요. 명부에 이름이 있어야 투표가 가능한데, 명부에 없는 사람들이 투표했다는 말입니다.

또 주소가 없는 18,325명이 투표를 했습니다. 주소란이 비어있었습니다. 조지아주에서 주소가 없는 18,325명에게 투표를 허락한 것입니다.

그리고 이건 숫자가 적긴 한데, 904표 입니다. 사서함 번호만 쓴 표가 904표입니다. 사서함 번호만 쓴 것도 법적으로 허용되지 않는 것입니다.

그리고 적어도 18,000표(영상으로 확인한) 이것은 루비 프리먼과 관련된 표들입니다. 루비 프리먼은 투표 사기꾼입니다. 전문 투표사기꾼 루비 프리먼. 전세계에 공개된 그 영상 말입니다. 여러분과 저 우리 모두를 수치스럽게 만들었습니다.

첫째로, 그들은 분명하게 누수가 있다고 말했고, 보도가 됐습니다. 그래서 다들 그곳에서 대피했습니다. 그리고나서 루비 프리먼과 그의 딸 그리고 몇몇이 돌아왔습니다. 공화당 참관인도 없었고 민주당 참관인도 없었습니다. 그 사람들(다시 돌아온 사름들)이 민주당 참관인이었나 봅니다. 그곳엔 민주당도 없었고, 경찰 등도 없었습니다.

그들은 새벽에 탁자로 갔습니다. 검은 천으로 덮인 탁자. 그들은 그 전에 이미 표를 그 탁자 아래 넣어둔 겁니다. 내 생각에 브래드 당신은 그것을 알았습니다. 이미 7-8시간 전에.

그것은 공식 투표함이 아니었습니다. 여행가방처럼 생겼는데, 그것은 공식 투표함이 아니었습니다.

영상을 확인해 본 결과... 우리는 그걸 보았고, 공증했고, 슬로우 모션으로 확인했습니다. 슬로우 모션으로 보고, 여러 번 확대해서 확인했습니다. 그것은 최소 18,000표 정도 됐으며, 그 표는 모두 바이든 표였습니다.

그리고 다른 주에 살면서 조지아 주에서 투표한 사람들이 4,925입니다.

주소가 없는 부재자 투표는 2,326이며, 그리고 드롭박스(길에서 넣는 박스)는 정말 나쁜 겁니다. 드롭 박스를 픽업하는 사진도 있고, 선서진술서도 있습니다.

공청회를 봤는지 모르겠지만, 드롭박스를 픽업하고 그것이 갔어야 할 장소에 3일 동안이나 운반 되지 않았습니다. 그 사이에 드롭박스에 무슨 일이 일어났는지 알 수 없는 일입니다.

드롭박스에 표를 넣을 때에 아주 많은 위반이 일어났고, 결론은 그들이 우리가 11,779표 차이로 졌다고 하는 그 표 격차가 바로 그것입니다.

조지아 주는 이 문제로 혼란스러운 상황이고, 당신도 이걸 조사해서 알아내고 싶지 않습니까?

그런데 오늘 TV를 보니, 당신은 TV에 나와서 아무 문제가 없었다고 말하더군요.

조지아 주에서 나는 패배하지 않았습니다. 사람들은 이렇게 말했습니다. 내 표가 아주 많이 나왔다고. 많은 정치가들은 이렇게 말했습니다. 그들이 나를 이겼다는 것은 말도 안된다고. 그들이 어떻게 이기냐고.

당신도 알다시피 우리가 각 주마다 하원 선거에서 다 이겼고, 상원도 지켰습니다. 모든 이들이 모두 충격을 받을 정도로 말입니다. 물론 5일에 선거가 또 있지만, 우리는 각 주 하원에서 승리했습니다.

사람들은 우리가 15석을 잃을 거라고 말했지만, 우리는 16-17석을 이겼습니다. 5석 정도 차이가 나는 것 같습니다.

모든 주의 정치인과 조지아 주의 정치인들이 '그들이 선거에서 나를 이겼을 리가 없다'는 진술서를 냈고, 또 낼 겁니다. 다들 상하원 선거에서 질 거라고 예상했는데 오히려 크게 승리했습니다. coattails(정치 후보에 대한 트럼프 대통령의 영향력) 덕분에 많은 (거짓) 여론조사에서 우리가 다 질 것이고 그들이 이길 것이라고 했었지요.

투표에서 알 수 없는 많은 표들이 들어왔고, 우리는 그 숫자를 파악 중이며 정확한 숫자를 얻을 것입니다. 공증하는데 시간이 좀 걸리지만 아주 많은 숫자인데, 11,779보다 훨씬 큰 수입니다.

또 다른 건, 고인들. 죽은 사람들의 투표가 이루어졌습니다. 거의 5천명 정도의 사망자 투표가 이루어졌습니다. 이 숫자는 정확한 숫자를 얻기 위해 부고란 등 모든 방법을 동원해서 파악한 수입니다. 최소 5천 표입니다.

결론적으로, 이것을 모두 합하면, 당신도 알다시피 3천표 가짜 표 등을 다 합하면, 풀턴 카운티나 다른 곳에서 오늘 아침에 나온 건데, 표를 파쇄하고 투표 장비를 옮긴다는 이야기를 들었습니다. 그들은 도미니언 기계의 부품을 바꾸는 등의 일을 하는데, 이는 불법입니다.

3천 파운드(1,360 kg)나 되는 표를 없앴다고 하는데, 오늘 보고를 받았습니다. 너무 슬픈 상황입니다.

표를 최소로 계산해도 11,779를 쉽게 넘지 않습니까? 많은 숫자가 공증되었고, 공증될 겁니다. 이것은 다 존재하는 수들이며, 득표 격차보다 훨씬 더 큰 수입니다. 사람들이 정확한 숫자를 알아낸 것은 기뻐해야 할 일입니다.

조지아 주는 아수라장입니다. 여기 뿐 아니라, 다른 곳들도 마찬가집니다. 다른 주들도 곧 우리에게 넘어올 겁니다. 예를 들어 디트로이트에 조지아 주의 큰 부분도 그런 것 같은데, 아직 확인 중이라 발표는 안 할 겁니다.

디트로이트에서 투표자가 139%나 됐습니다. 좋지 않습니다.

펜실베니아에서는 투표한 사람보다 20만 표가 더 나왔습니다. 펜실베니아 주의회는 공화당이고, 활동가들은 모두 화가 났습니다.

이런 안 좋은 사례들이 또 많이 있지만, 미시건 주에서는 사망자 투표가 엄청나게 많았습니다. 18,000인가 엄청나게 큰 숫자입니다. 정말 믿을 수 없을 정도로 많은 숫자입니다.

당신의 주 조지아의 사망자 투표는 4~5천 표 정도지요?

이런 것들은 우리가 정말 힘들게 신문의 부고란과 일일이 대조해서 얻은 결과입니다.

임시 표(이미 투표했다고 해서 투표를 못한 사람들이 한 임시 투표)에 대해 나에게 설명해 주어야 하는데, 많은 사람들이 이미 투표를 했다고 해서 투표를 못하는 바람에 불만이 많았습니다. 정말 좋은 사람들인데 어쩔 줄 몰랐습니다.

몇몇 주에서는 많은 임시 표들이 있었습니다. 11월 3일에 투표하러 갔다가 투표하지 못한 사람들이 임시 투표를 했었습니다.

그래서 내가 말하려는 것이 이것입니다. 우리가 조지아 주에서 승리하기 위해 필요한 숫자의 몇 배 되는 숫자가 지금 문제가 되고 있으며, 우리는 조지아 주에서 이겼습니다. 크게 이겼습니다. 쉽게.

많은 부분이 공증이 되었는데, 우리가 필요한 숫자보다 훨씬 많습니다. 그런데 추가적으로 더 확인해서 공증을 받을 겁니다.

우리는 이송되는 드롭박스 사진도 있고, 늦게 이송된 것, 어떤 경우에는 3일이나 후에 운반된 것에 대한 선서 진술서들도 많이 갖고 있습니다.

▪️마크 매도우스: 대통령님, 제가 좀 끼어들어도 되겠습니까? 라펜스퍼거 주무장관에게 정당한 표, 합법적인 표만 인정되어야 하는데 그렇지 않았다고 생각하시는데, 이것은 주무장관의 입장과 배치됩니다.

제가 바라기는 합의점을 찾을 수 있느냐 하는 것입니다. 이 문제에 대해 더 완전하게 조사할 수 있는... 대통령님께서 풀턴 카운티를 말씀하셨는데, 다른 곳에서도 사실 발견에 따른 문제들이 보이거든요.

따라서 주무장관님, 저희가 바라는 것은 좀 협조나 합의를 해서 이 주장들을 더 들여다 볼 수 있느냐는 것입니다. 소송까지 가지 않는 선에서요.

▪️라펜스퍼거 주무장관: 트럼프 대통령께서 말씀하신 걸 들었는데요, 우리는 현재 재판이 몇 개 진쟁 중이고, 재판부에도 답변을 해야 했는데, 20만 표를 말씀하신 것에 대해서는 동의하지 않습니다.

요점 별로 말씀드리자면, 주 상원 위원회에 한 시간 반 동안 이슈별로 브리핑을 했고, 하원 위원회에서 두 시간 반 동안 브리핑을 했습니다. 모든 이슈들을 하나하나 짚어가면서요.

며칠 전에 저는 공화당 하원 의원들과 만났습니다. 두 시간 동안 선거에 대해 이야기했습니다. 주로 그들의 주장은 절차에 관한 것이고 도미니언 기계에 대해서는 별다른 주장이 없는 것 같습니다. 우리는 수개표로 다 확인했거든요.

기계에서 나온 결과와 대조했더니 거의 같은 결과가 나왔습니다. 재검표를 또 했지만, 같은 결과를 얻었습니다. 그래서 이에 대한 문제는 전혀 없는 것 같습니다.

▪️트럼프 대통령: 브래드, 문제가 없어서 말을 안 한 것이 아닙니다. 다른 주에서 도미니언에 대해 큰 문제가 있습니다. 그런데 아마도 거기까지 갈 필요가 없어서 그런 것일 겁니다.

마크 매도우스가 말한 것에서 좀 다르게 말하고 싶은게 있는데, 더 조사를 하는 건 좋지만, 그런데 그럴 필요가 없습니다. 벌써 우리가 필요한 표가 충분히 있기 때문입니다. 우리가 이겼습니다.

🔹누가 거짓말장이인가?

워싱턴포스트와 기타 쓰레기 언론들은 여기 저기에서 뽑아 짜집기를 해서 트럼프 대통령이 라펜스퍼거에게 압박을 가한 것처럼 만들어서 거짓을 뿌리고 있지만, 통화 내용을 들어보면, 트럼프 대통령은 처음부터 끝까지 어떻게든 그를 설득하려고 무척 애쓰고 있다는 것을 누구나 알 수가 있다.

트럼프 대통령께서는 어떻게든 그를 설득해서 정직한 투표를 하는 미국 즉 위대한 미국을 건설하고 싶어서 계속해서 대화를 이끌어나갔으나 부정직한 그는 결코 대통령과 대화를 할 수 있는 상대가 아니었다.

통화 내용 중에서 라펜스퍼거는 대통령에게 "대통령님, 소셜 미디어의 문제는 사람들이 무엇이든 말할 수 있다는 겁니다"라고 말하자, 트럼프 대통령은 "오, 아니오, 이건 소셜 미디어의 문제가 아닙니다. 트럼프 미디어입니다. 소셜 미디어가 아닙니다. 정말 아닙니다. 나는 소셜 미디어에 관심이 없습니다. 소셜 미디어는 오히려 빅테크들입니다"라며 라펜스퍼거를 계속해서 설득하느라 노력하는 모습을 볼 수 있다.

반면에 라펜스퍼거는 "트럼프 대통령님, 당신의 말은 거짓이고, 진실은 곧 밝혀질 것입니다"라고 비난했다. 이처럼 악인은 자신의 말로 자신이 심판을 받는다는 것을 하나님께서는 우리에게 교훈을 주신다.

대화 중에 트럼프 대통령께서 "풀턴 카운티에서 서명 확인은 도대체 언제 할 건가요? 분명히 진행한다고 했는데, 갑자기 멈추고 있지 않습니까?"라고 질문하자, 라펜스퍼거는 "대통령님, 이제 곧 진행할 것입니다. 이미 공지는 했지만... "이라고 대답했다.

누가 거짓말을 하는 것이고, 현재 밝혀진 진실이 무엇인가?

마귀가 아비인 자들은 모든 것이 거짓이면서 그 거짓을 진실이라는 포장지로 포장만 하면 그만인 줄 안다. 그리고 세상의 모든 마귀의 자녀들은 그 포장지만 보고 믿고 따라간다.

오늘날 진짜 성령을 받은 하나님의 자녀들만이 포장지에 현혹되지 않고, 그 안에 숨겨진 비밀을 찾아낸다. 진리와 진실을 분별할 수 있는 영적 분별력을 가진 자만이 "지혜롭게 할만큼 탐스러운 선악과"의 미혹에 넘어가지 않는다.

이글을 읽고 있는 독자는 하나님의 자녀인가, 마귀의 자녀인가?

🔸요한복음 8:44

44. 너희는 너희 아비 마귀에게서 났으니 너희 아비의 욕심을 너희도 행하고자 하느니라. 저는 처음부터 살인한 자요, 진리가 그 속에 없으므로 진리에 서지 못하고 거짓을 말할 때마다 제 것으로 말하나니, 이는 저가 거짓말장이요 거짓의 아비가 되었음이니라

45. 내가 진리를 말하므로 너희가 나를 믿지 아니하는도다

🔸요한복음 12:48

나를 저버리고 내 말을 받지 아니하는 자를 심판할 이가 있으니 곧 나의 한 그 말이 마지막 날에 저를 심판하리라

🔸마태복음 12:34-37

34. 독사의 자식들아, 너희는 악하니 어떻게 선한 말을 할 수 있느냐? 이는 마음에 가득한 것을 입으로 말함이라

35. 선한 사람은 그 쌓은 선에서 선한 것을 내고 악한 사람은 그 쌓은 악에서 악한 것을 내느니라

36. 내가 너희에게 이르노니 사람이 무슨 무익한 말을 하든지 심판날에 이에 대하여 심문을 받으리니

37. 네 말로 의롭다 함을 받고 네 말로 정죄함을 받으리라

🔹가짜 투표용지가 버려지기 전 사진

트럼프 팀의 멤머이며 overstock.com의 설립자인 패트릭 번(Patrick Byrne)은 그의 트위터에 "조지아 선거 관리원들은 이 사진에 대하여 몇 가지 설명을 해야 한다"면서 가짜 투표 용지가 트럭으로 옮겨져 분쇄되어 버려지기 전에 발견된 것들의 사진을 올려놓았다.

그의 트위터의 내용을 기사화한 게이트 웨이 푼디트(Gate Way Pundit)에 따르면, 조지아주 풀턴 카운티의 가짜 투표 용지가 트럭으로 옮겨져 분쇄되어 버려지기 전에 발견했고, 이러한 가짜 투표용지 박스들이 쌓여있는 것을 증거사진으로 남겼다는 것이다.

사진의 설명을 보면, "위조된 풀턴 카운티 조지아 투표용지 박스를 저희 직원이 풀턴 카운티 아틀란타 창고에 들어가 사진을 찍었다. 이것들은 가짜 투표용지이다"라면서 다음과 같이 여러 사진을 올렸다.

🔹조시 홀리 상원의원 가족, 안티파의 습격당해

한편, 공화당의 조시 홀리 상원의원이 안티파로부터 협박을 당했다. 조시 홀리 상원의원에 따르면, 안티파 깡패들이 그의 아내와 갓난아이를 협박했다며 1월 5일 그의 트윗에 다음과 같은 글을 올렸다.

"내가 오늘 밤 미주리에 있을 때, 안티파 깡패들이 워싱턴 D.C.에 있는 우리 집에 와서 나의 아내와 어디에 가지도 못하는 갓 태어난 딸을 협박했다. 그들은 소리를 지르며 협박했고, 기물 파손을 했으며 우리집 문을 두드려 열려고 했다. 

내가 확실하게 말하는데, 나의 가족과 나는 이런 극좌파의 폭력에 절대 물러서지 않을 것이다."

12월 28일 공화당의 모 브룩스 하원의원이 폭스뉴스에 출연하여 수십명의 공화당 하원의원들이 선거인단 투표 결과 인증에 이의를 제기할 것을 밝혔다.

그리고 이틀 뒤인 12월 30일에 조시 홀리 의원은 "경합주 특히 펜실베니아 주가 그들의 주 선거법을 따르지 않았다는 사실을 제기하지 않으면, 1월 6일에 있을 선거인단 투표 결과를 인증하기 위하여 투표할 수 없다"며 성명을 발표했다. 

조시 홀리 (미주리)상원의원은 선거인단 투표 결과에 이의를 제기한 첫번째 상원의원이다. 그는 트위터와 페이스북을 포함한 빅테크들이 조 바이든을 위해 이번 대선에 개입한 것에 대하여 밝히지 않고는 인증 투표를 할 수 없다고도 밝혔다.

Josh Hawley 상원의원

시진핑과 관계가 있는 중국인 아내를 둔 미치 매코넬 상원 원내대표는 하원의 그러한 움직임에 동참하지 말라고 상원의원들에게 압박을 가했으나, 조시 홀리 상원의원의 이의제기 성명 발표에 이어 상원에서는 테드 크루즈(텍사스) 상원의원을 비롯한 12명의 의원이 이의 제기하겠다고 나섰으며, 조지아주 상원의원 결선 투표에 나선 켈리 뢰플러 상원의원도 이의를 제기하겠다고 했으며, 하원에서는 140여명의 의원이 이에 동참하겠다고 밝혔다.

상하원에서 각 1명 이상 이의 제기하는 의원이 나올 경우, 2시간 동안 토론을 해야 하며 토론 후에 표결을 해야 한다.

그런데 하원에서는 여러 의원들이 이의를 제기하겠다고 했으나 상원에서는 아무 말이 없다가 조시 홀리 의원이 상원의원으로서 처음으로 이의 제기를 하겠다고 하는 바람에 1월 6일에 있을 인증 투표는 쉽게 이루어질 수 없게 되었다. 그래서 민주당을 지지하는 안티파, 아니 민주당의 하수인 안티파가 그를 타겟으로 삼은 것이다.

뉴스위크의 기사를 보면, "워싱턴 D.C.를 닫아라"라는 민주당 지지그룹 'ShutDownDC'의 웹사이트에 의하면, 그들은 월요일 밤 조시 홀리의 집 앞에서 시위를 열었다고 밝혔다.

ShutDownDC의 운동가인 패트릭 영(Patrick Young)은 월요일 성명에서 "조시 홀리의 행동은 민주적이지 않으며 받아들일 수 없다. 이미 투표자들이 대통령을 결정했고, 심지어 공화당 선거위원회가 투표결과를 인증했음에도 불구하고 홀리는 우리들의 목소리를 묵살하려 하고 있다"고 밝혔다.

이처럼 민주당측 하수인들은 폭력을 일삼는 깡패집단이며, 공화당측은 그 반대라는 것을 보여주고 있다.

민주당측은 새해를 맞아 의회를 개회하면서 소위 목사라는 자가 하나님을 버리고 하나님의 반역자들을 위한 기도 아닌 기도를 하면서 종교다원주의와 동성애와 남자를 없애기 원하는 급진적 페미니즘의 얼굴을 드러냈다.(아멘 그리고 여자 A-Men and A-women) 

🔹자유의 메달, 데빈 누네스 & 짐 조던

한편, 1월 4일(현지시간) 더힐에 따르면, 트럼프 대통령은 데빈 누네스와 짐 조던 하원의원에게 '자유의 메달'을 수여한다. 

자유의 메달은 1963년 존 F. 케네디 대통령 재임 시절에 제정된 대통령령의 상으로 민간인이 받을 수 있는 최고 훈장이다.

데빈 누네스는 '러시아 스캔들' 짐 조던은 '우크라이나 스캔들' 당시 트럼프 대통령을 옹호해 준 공화당 의원이다.

짐 조던 의원은 우크라이나 스캔들로 떠들썩할 때에 앞서서 트럼프 대통령을 옹호하며 '전투견'이라는 별명이 붙은 젊은 공화당의원이다.

이번 부정선거에 대해 이의를 제기한 짐 조던(Jim Jordon) 의원은 그가 이번 117회 의회에서 했던 동영상을 그의 트위터에 올렸다. 이 동영상은 하루 전인 5일에 올린 동영상과 거의 내용이 같다.

Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) Tweeted:

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1346519208558002176?s=20

낸시 하원의장은 의회에서 5분간 말할 수 있는 시간을 주었는데, 다음은 짐 조던 의원이 5일에 올린 내용이다.

"선거운동 기간동안, 바이든 부통령은 행사에서 55명을 모았고, 트럼프 대통령은 단 한 번의 집회에 55,000명을 모았습니다.

트럼프 대통령은 흑인의 득표를 늘렸고, 히스패닉 득표도 늘렸으며 벨웨더 카운티(결정적인 곳) 20개 중 19 곳에서 승리했고, 오하이오에서 8개, 아이오와에서 8개, 플로리다에서 3개를 이겼으며, 2016년 대선보다도 1,100만 표를 더 얻었습니다.

그리고 공화당 하원의원들은 접전지역 27곳에서 모두 승리를 했습니다. 하지만 어째서인지, 어째서 조 바이든이 (선거기간동안) 자기 집에서 거의 나오지도 않았던 그가 선거에서 이겼다고 합니다. 정말이요? 정말 그런가요?

하지만 8천 만 명의 미국인이, 공화당과 민주당을 통틀어서 8천만 명의 미국인들이 의구심을 품고 있습니다. 그리고 6천만 명의 미국인들은 선거를 도둑맞았다고 생각하고 있습니다. 6천만 명의 사람들이 말입니다. 유권자의 3분의 1이 넘는 사람들입니다.

하지만 민주당원들은 아무도 신경쓰지 않는 것 같습니다. 언론도 신경쓰지 않습니다. 우리 국민의 8천만 명이 두달 전 이 선거에 의구심을 갖는다고 했습니다. 그리고 언론과 민주당원들은 "아무 문제 없어. 걱정하지마. 모든 게 괜찮아"라고 합니다. 왜냐하면 트럼프 대통령이 대통령이기 때문입니다.

물론 여기 사람들은 대통령이 당선도 되기 전인 2016년 7월 31일부터 그가 첫 번째 임기 당선 전부터 문제를 삼았습니다. 

러시아 사기 건에 4년간 4천만 달러를 쏟아부어놓고, 그러나 우리는 선거는 조사할 필요가 없다고 합니다. 6천만 명의 미국인이 도둑맞았다고 생각하는데 말입니다.

선거가 끝나고 9주 동안, 단 한 건의 조사도 없습니다. 단 한 건의 하원의 공청회도 없었습니다. 우리가 요청했는데 말입니다. 제가 요청했습니다. 우리는 내들러 의장에게 요청했습니다. 그런데 "안됩니다. 조사하지 않을 겁니다"라고 했습니다. 우리는 제발 감사 조사를 하기 바랍니다. 200개가 넘는 진술서와 범죄에 대한 신고가 있습니다. 

하지만 하원에서 조사를 하지 않았습니다. 소환장도 없었고, 증언도 없었고, 증인에 대한 질문과 반대심문의 기회도 없었습니다. 왜 그럴까요? 왜 그들은 이것을 조사하지 않는 것일까요? 왜 공청회가 없을까요? 왜 조사를 하지 않습니까? 제가 생각하기에 아주 깊은 곳에 아주 깊이 이 선거에 큰 문제가 있었다는 것을 그들이 알고있기 때문입니다.

그들은 헌법을 위반했다는 것을 알고 있습니다. 

▪️헌법 제1조 4절, 선거의 시기, 장소 및 방법은 각 주에서 그 주의회가 정한다.

▪️헌법 제2조 1절, 각 주는 그 주의회가 정하는 바에 따른다.

펜실베니아를 보십시오. 펜실베니아 법에 따르면, "우편투표는 선거날 8시까지 실시되어야 한다"라고 되어있습니다. 선거일은 그 날 8시에 끝납니다. 우편 투표는 선거일 8시까지 들어와 있어야 합니다. 

민주당의 주 대법원은 "아니다"라고 말했습니다. "우리는 선거일을 금요일까지, 금요일 5시까지 연장할 것이다"라고 말했습니다.

펜실베니아 주법은, "우편 투표지는 서명 확인이 필요하다"라고 말합니다. 민주당의 주무장관은 "필요없다"라고 말했습니다. 그녀는 우편투표지 260만 개에 대하여, 그 법을 따르지 않을 것이라고 말했습니다. 펜실베니아 법은 "우편 투표는 선거일까지 개표가 진행되어서는 안된다"라고 규정하고 있지만, 몇몇 카운티 위원들은 "아니다"라고 말하며 그들은 투표지를 고치고, 선거일 전에 바꿀 수 있도록 허용하고 있습니다.

여러분은 어느 카운티가 그것을 허용했는지 상상할 수 있을 겁니다. 민주당의 카운티가 그것을 허용했습니다. 공화당의 카운티들은 허용하지 않았습니다. 

의회가 선거의 시간과 장소, 방식을 결정하는 겁니다. 대법원도 아니고, 주무장관도 아니고 카운티의 위원들도 아닙니다. 

그러한 모든 곳들은 모두 직접적으로 법을 위반한 조치를 취했습니다. 주의회가 제정한 법을 그리고 헌법을 위반했습니다. 하지만 민주당원들은 신경쓰지 않습니다. 그들은 그것을 조사하기를 원치 않습니다. 그들은 그저 6천만 명의 우리 국민을 무시하고, 그들을 음모론자라고 지칭하며, 우리 자신들이 대표해야 할 우리 국민들을 조롱하고 있습니다.

여러분, 그것 아십니까? 내일(6일) 사람들은 진실을 듣는 기회를 갖게 될 것입니다. 내일 그 6천만 명의 사람들, 그 8천만 명의 의구심을 가진 사람들이 듣게 될 겁니다. 그들은 무례하게 대우받지 않을 겁니다. 

그들은 존중받을 것이며, 그럴 자격이 있습니다. 내일 국민의 하원에서는 토론이 있을 것이며, 내일 헌법이 수호되고 미국 국민들은 진실을 보게 될 것입니다. 그들은 선거날로 이어진 그 며칠, 몇 주 동안 민주당이 어떻게 법을 바꾸고, 우리 선거를 혼란에 빠뜨렸는지를 보게 될 것입니다.

내일 그들은 고 루스 베이더 긴스버그 대법관이 말한 것을 볼 것입니다. 1월 6일은 궁극적으로 중요한 날입니다. 그리고 내일 이 위대한 나라의 시민들은 왜 내일이 중요한 날인지를 알게 될 것입니다.”

🔹조지아주 상원의원 결선 투표에서 사라진 5만 7천표

선거 조작을 인정하기에 위스콘신주의회는 주지사의 선거인단 인증을 뒤집는 결의를 했다.

아니나다를까! 부정투표를 계속 놔두는 조지아주에서 상원의원 결선 투표한 숫자가 갑자기 사라지는 일이 또 발생했다. CNN과 ABC가 라이브 개표 방송하는 중에 공화당의 데이비드 퍼듀 의원은 774,723표(45%)였는데, 그 다음 집계에서는 32,400표가 줄어든 742,323표(44%)가 집계됐다고 나왔다.

민주당의 오소프에게 1% 올리고, 공화당의 퍼듀 의원에게서 1%를 낮추었다. 지난번 대선 때와 똑같은 패턴이다. 마귀는 늘 패턴이 같아서 들통이 난다.

그리고 시간이 지난 뒤에 또다시 데이비드 퍼듀 의원의 표가 2,130,535였는데, 2,125,535표로 5천표가 또 줄어들었다.

11월 대선 때와 똑같은 부정이 일어났는데, 이제는 아예 수치심이나 죄책감도 없이 라이브 방송에서 대놓고 사기치는 것을 방송했다. 꼬리가 길면 잡히는 법이다.

그리고 공화당 후보인 켈리 뢰플러의 표도 마찬가지로 1,511,601(50.5%)에서 1,491,818(50.5%)표로 19,783표가 사라졌다. 전체 개표상황이 79%인 상황에서 정확히 10초 후에 19,783표가 줄어들었다.

전문가들의 말에 의하면, 서버에서 특정 후보의 표를 차감하는 수법으로 선거조작을 하고 있는 것으로 보고 있다. 서버상의 표의 숫자를 조작한 후에, 추후에 투표지를 더 추가해서 숫자를 맞추는 방식으로 선거조작을 한다는 것이다.

또한 개표가 97% 진행되었다고 하다가 갑자기 95%로 줄었다고 나왔다. 그러면서 기계에 문제가 있다면서 개표를 중단하고 다음날 6일 오전 8시에 재개하겠다고 했는데, 이것 역시 지난 대선에서의 부정선거와 똑같은 수법이다. 똑같이 수직상승 그래프가 나타났다.

조지아주의 풀턴 카운티를 비롯한 여러 대형 카운티에서 개표 막판에 갑자기 개표를 중단한 것과 너무나 똑같은 일이 또 벌어진 것이다.

지난 11월 3일 대선에서 조지아주, 펜실베이나주, 미시간주 등에서 보여준 부정선거를 그대로 생방송으로 보여주었다.

펜실베이니아에서 43만표의 트럼프 대통령의 표가 삭제된 것과 비교하면 얼마 안 되는 숫자같지만, 그 숫자로 민주당은 이겼다고 우기고 있다.

이러한 상황을 지켜보면서 트럼프 대통령은 "너희들 그럴 줄 알았어"라는 식의 글을 트윗에 올렸다.

"그들은 공화당 후보들을 상대로 대대적인 부정투표지를 쏟아부으려고 설치하는 것 같다. 얼마나 많은 표가 필요한지 그 표를 계산하고 있는가?"

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Meadows: Okay. Alright. Mr. President, everyone is on the line. This is Mark Meadows, the chief of staff. Just so we all are aware. On the line is secretary of state and two other individuals. Jordan and Mr. Germany with him. You also have the attorneys that represent the president, Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell — who is not the attorney of record but has been involved — myself and then the president. So Mr. President, I’ll turn it over to you.

Trump: Okay, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call. So we’ve spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it’s pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.

But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 — anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked. We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County — you’ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that’s going to happen.

Another tremendous number. We’re going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but it’s in the 50s of thousands — and that’s people that went to vote and they were told they can’t vote because they’ve already been voted for. And it’s a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number’s large. We’ll have it for you. But it’s much more than the number of 11,779 that’s — the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That’s something I think everyone — at least that’s a number that everyone agrees on.

But that’s the difference in the votes. But we’ve had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we’re able to actually — we’ll get you a pretty accurate number. You don’t need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779. But you also have a substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands, who went to the voting place on November 3, were told they couldn’t vote, were told they couldn’t vote because a ballot had been put on their name. And you know that’s very, very, very, very sad.

We had, I believe it’s about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren’t on the voter registration list, so it’s 4,502 who voted, but they weren’t on the voter registration roll, which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant, and they’re not allowed to be counted. That’s 18,325.

Smaller number — you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. — a post office box number — and they had a post office box number, and that’s not allowed. We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.

Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either, and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe and the black shield, and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before — the table was put there — I think it was, Brad, you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with votes.

They weren’t in an official voter box; they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases, but they weren’t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it, and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it, but slow motion, and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.

You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia, but they were from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots sent to vacant, they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that’s 2,326.

And you had dropboxes, which is very bad. You had dropboxes that were picked up. We have photographs, and we have affidavits from many people.

I don’t know if you saw the hearings, but you have dropboxes where the box was picked up but not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to that box, including, you know, putting in the votes that you wanted. So there were many infractions, and the bottom line is, many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by — we had vast, I mean the state is in turmoil over this.

And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today, and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know, and I didn’t lose the state, Brad. People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way. A lot of the political people said that there’s no way they beat me. And they beat me. They beat me in the . . . As you know, every single state, we won every state. We won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we’ll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days.

And we won the House, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they gained, I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there’s a now difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no way that they beat me in the election, that the people came out, in fact, they were expecting to lose, and then they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails. And they said there’s no way, that they’ve done many polls prior to the election, that there was no way that they won.

Ballots were dropped in massive numbers. And we’re trying to get to those numbers and we will have them.

They’ll take a period of time. Certified. But but they’re massive numbers. And far greater than the 11,779.

The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.

The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They’re changing the equipment on the Dominion machines and, you know, that’s not legal.

And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of, 3,000 pounds of ballots. And that just came to us as a report today. And it is a very sad situation.

But Brad, if you took the minimum numbers where many, many times above the 11,779, and many of those numbers are certified, or they will be certified, but they are certified. And those are numbers that are there, that exist. And that beat the margin of loss, they beat it, I mean, by a lot, and people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of an election where there’s turmoil.

I mean there’s turmoil in Georgia and other places. You’re not the only one, I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly. And this is something that — you know, as an example, I think it in Detroit, I think there’s a section, a good section of your state actually, which we’re not sure so we’re not going to report it yet. But in Detroit, we had, I think it was, 139 percent of the people voted. That’s not too good.

In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more votes than they had people voting. And that doesn’t play too well, and the legislature there is, which is Republican, is extremely activist and angry. I mean, there were other things also that were almost as bad as that. But they had as an example, in Michigan, a tremendous number of dead people that voted. I think it was, I think, Mark, it was 18,000. Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.

And that was checked out laboriously by going through, by going through the obituary columns in the newspapers.

So I guess with all of it being said, Brad, the bottom line, and provisional ballots, again, you know, you’ll have to tell me about the provisional ballots, but we have a lot of people that were complaining that they weren’t able to vote because they were already voted for. These are great people.

And, you know, they were shellshocked. I don’t know if you call that provisional ballots. In some states, we had a lot of provisional ballot situations where people were given a provisional ballot because when they walked in on November 3 and they were already voted for.

So that’s it. I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win the state. And we won the state, and we won it very substantially and easily, and we’re getting, we have, much of this is a very certified, far more certified than we need. But we’re getting additional numbers certified, too. And we’re getting pictures of dropboxes being delivered and delivered late. Delivered three days later, in some cases, plus we have many affidavits to that effect.

Meadows: So, Mr. President, if I might be able to jump in, and I’ll give Brad a chance. Mr. Secretary, obviously there is, there are allegations where we believe that not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted, and that’s at odds with the representation from the secretary of state’s office.

What I’m hopeful for is there some way that we can, we can find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully? You know the president mentioned Fulton County.

But in some of these areas where there seems to be a difference of where the facts seem to lead, and so Mr. Secretary, I was hopeful that, you know, in the spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there something that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that’s less litigious?

Raffensperger: Well, I listened to what the president has just said. President Trump, we’ve had several lawsuits, and we’ve had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. We don’t agree that you have won. And we don’t — I didn’t agree about the 200,000 number that you’d mentioned. I’ll go through that point by point.

What we have done is we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago, we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election. Going back, primarily what you’ve talked about here focused in on primarily, I believe, is the absentee ballot process. I don’t believe that you’re really questioning the Dominion machines. Because we did a hand re-tally, a 100 percent re-tally of all the ballots, and compared them to what the machines said and came up with virtually the same result. Then we did the recount, and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we can probably take that off the table.

I don’t think there’s an issue about that.

Trump: Well, Brad. Not that there’s not an issue, because we have a big issue with Dominion in other states and perhaps in yours. But we haven’t felt we needed to go there. And just to, you know, maybe put a little different spin on what Mark is saying, Mark Meadows, yeah we’d like to go further, but we don’t really need to. We have all the votes we need.

You know, we won the state. If you took, these are the most minimal numbers, the numbers that I gave you, those are numbers that are certified, your absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses, your out-of-state voters, 4,925. You know when you add them up, it’s many more times, it’s many times the 11,779 number. So we could go through, we have not gone through your Dominion. So we can’t give them blessing. I mean, in other states, we think we found tremendous corruption with Dominion machines, but we’ll have to see.

But we only lost the state by that number, 11,000 votes, and 779. So with that being said, with just what we have, with just what we have, we’re giving you minimal, minimal numbers. We’re doing the most conservative numbers possible; we’re many times, many, many times above the margin. And so we don’t really have to, Mark, I don’t think we have to go through . . .

Meadows: Right.

Trump: Because what’s the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes. I think I probably did win it by half a million. You know, one of the things that happened, Brad, is we have other people coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from other states, and they’re saying it’s impossible for you to have lost Georgia. We won. You know in Alabama, we set a record, got the highest vote ever. In Georgia, we set a record with a massive amount of votes. And they say it’s not possible to have lost Georgia.

And I could tell you by our rallies. I could tell you by the rally I’m having on Monday night, the place, they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It’s just not possible to have lost Georgia. It’s not possible. When I heard it was close, I said there’s no way. But they dropped a lot of votes in there late at night. You know that, Brad. And that’s what we are working on very, very stringently. But regardless of those votes, with all of it being said, we lost by essentially 11,000 votes, and we have many more votes already calculated and certified, too.

And so I just don’t know, you know, Mark, I don’t know what’s the purpose. I won’t give Dominion a pass because we found too many bad things. But we don’t need Dominion or anything else. We have won this election in Georgia based on all of this. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the correct — the people of Georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night. Along with others that we’re going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you’ve recalculated. Because the 2,236 in absentee ballots. I mean, they’re all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.

Raffensperger: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised.

But they — I guess there was a person named Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data, and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong.

Trump: Well, Cleta, how do you respond to that? Maybe you tell me?

Mitchell: Well, I would say, Mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested and what we said was, if you look, if you read our petition, it said that we took the names and birth years, and we had certain information available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have, and so we said there is a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and died.

But we don’t have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary —

Trump: But, Cleta, even before you do that, and not even including that, that’s why I hardly even included that number, although in one state, we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don’t know — I’m sure we do in Georgia, too. I’m sure we do in Georgia, too.

But we’re so far ahead. We’re so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of [name] , known scammer. You know the Internet? You know what was trending on the Internet? “Where’s [name]?” Because they thought she’d be in jail. “Where’s [name]?” It’s crazy, it’s crazy. That was. The minimum number is 18,000 for [name] , but they think it’s probably about 56,000, but the minimum number is 18,000 on the [name] night where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed, she stuffed the ballot boxes. Let’s face it, Brad, I mean. They did it in slow motion replay magnified, right? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobody has ever seen them stuffed before.

So there’s a term for it when it’s a machine instead of a ballot box, but she stuffed the machine. She stuffed the ballot. Each ballot went three times, they were showing: Here’s ballot No 1. Here it is a second time, third time, next ballot.

I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we’re going to release. It’s devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we’re talking about. It’s, you know, that one event was a disaster. And it’s just, you know, but it was, it was something, it can’t be disputed. And again, we have a version that you haven’t seen, but it’s magnified. It’s magnified, and you can see everything. For some reason, they put it in three times, each ballot, and I don’t know why. I don’t know why three times. Why not five times, right? Go ahead.

Raffensperger: You’re talking about the State Farm video. And I think it’s extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The next day, we brought in WSB-TV, and we let them show, see the full run of tape, and what you’ll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know —

Trump: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.

It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers, and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left. They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break. But we’re, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat pollwatchers, because there were none.

And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush. These people left their station.

When they came back, they didn’t go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those. They went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station, and they would have continued to work. But they couldn’t do even that because that’s illegal, because they had no Republican pollwatchers. And remember, her reputation is — she’s known all over the Internet, Brad. She’s known all over.

I’m telling you, “Where’s [name] ” was one of the hot items . . . [name] They knew her. “Where’s [name]?” So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I, you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was — and Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put ’em in three times.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

Trump: Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room. How come we had no security in the room. Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the votes. I mean, Brad. And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the votes.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, we’ll send you the link from WSB.

Trump: I don’t care about the link. I don’t need it. Brad, I have a much better —

Mitchell: I will tell you. I’ve seen the tape. The full tape. So has Alex. We’ve watched it. And what we saw and what we’ve confirmed in the timing is that they made everybody leave — we have sworn affidavits saying that. And then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don’t know that. If you know that . . .

Trump: It was 18,000 ballots, but they used each one three times.

Mitchell: Well, I don’t know about that.

Trump: I do think we had ours magnified out.

Mitchell: I’ve watched the entire tape.

Trump: Nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, you’d have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child.

Mitchell: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI . . . investigate that.

Germany: We had our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was, who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Well, what did they find?

Trump: There’s only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There’s just no way. Look. There’s no way. And on the other thing, I said too, there is no way. I mean, there’s no way that these things could have been, you know, you have all these different people that voted, but they don’t live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number, too.

Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, and then it’s like 4,500, I don’t have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in, and they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I thought that was a large number, though. It was in the 20s.

Germany: We’ve been going through each of those as well, and those numbers that we got, that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they’re not accurate. Every one we’ve been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in many cases —

Trump: How may people do that? They moved out, and then they said, “Ah, to hell with it, I’ll move back.” You know, it doesn’t sound like a very normal . . . you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It’s crazy.

Germany: They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there’s something about that data that, it’s just not accurate.

Trump: Well, I don’t know, all I know is that it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia, and they voted. It didn’t say they moved back in, Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, but I mean, we’re looking at the voter registration. Again, if you have additional records, we’ve been asking for that, but you haven’t shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: Cleta, a lot of it you don’t need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share it. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election.

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I’m just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they’re many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.

Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal, right?

Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what about the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?

Germany: The only investigation that we have into that — they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this stuff from, you know, from you know past elections.

Trump: It doesn’t pass the smell test because we hear they’re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots, and now what they’re saying, “Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office.” You know.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.

Trump: Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s really not; it’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don’t even know why you have a side because you should want to have an accurate election. And you’re a Republican.

Raffensperger: We believe that we do have an accurate election.

Trump: No, no you don’t. No, no you don’t. You don’t have. Not even close. You’re off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you’re off on these numbers, and these numbers can’t be just — well, why wont? — Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn’t want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there, they weren’t allowed into the room. But we didn’t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn’t give it to us. Now, why aren’t we doing signature — and why can’t it be open to the public?

And why can’t we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don’t want to find anything? They don’t want to find, you know they don’t want to find anything. Someday you’ll tell me the reason why, because I don’t understand your reasoning, but someday you’ll tell me the reason why. But why don’t you want to find?

Germany: Mr. President, we chose Cobb County —

Trump: Why don’t you want to find . . . What?

Germany: Sorry, go ahead.

Trump: So why did you do Cobb County? We didn’t even request — we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go ahead, please. Go ahead.

Germany: We chose Cobb County because that was the only county where there’s been any evidence submitted that the signature verification was not properly done.

Trump: No, but I told you. We’re not, we’re not saying that.

Mitchell: We did say that.

Trump: Fulton County. Look. Stacey, in my opinion, Stacey is as dishonest as they come. She has outplayed you . . . at everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You can’t check signatures. I can’t imagine you’re allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement. That agreement is a disaster for this country. But she got you somehow to sign that thing, and she has outsmarted you at every step.

And I hate to imagine what’s going to happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it’s very scary to people. You know, when the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It’s very scary to people. That consent decree is a disaster. It’s a disaster. A very good lawyer who examined it said they’ve never seen anything like it.

Raffensperger: Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement did not change that one iota.

Trump: It’s not a settlement agreement, it’s a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, doesn’t it? It uses the term consent decree. It doesn’t say settlement agreement. It’s a consent decree. It’s a disaster.

Raffensperger: It’s a settlement agreement.

Trump: What’s written on top of it?

Raffensperger: Ryan?

Germany: I don’t have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court, it’s not a court order.

Trump: But Ryan, it’s called a consent decree, is that right? On the paper. Is that right?

Germany: I don’t. I don’t. I don’t believe so, but I don’t have it in front of me.

Trump: Okay, whatever, it’s a disaster. It’s a disaster. Look. Here’s the problem. We can go through signature verification, and we’ll find hundreds of thousands of signatures, if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn’t do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you’ll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren’t even signed and you have many that are forgeries.

Okay, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt, and so is she totally corrupt.

And they’re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re laughing at you. And you’ve taken a state that’s a Republican state, and you’ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody’s ever cheated before. And I don’t care how long it takes me, you know, we’re going to have other states coming forward — pretty good.

But I won’t . . . this is never . . . this is . . . We have some incredible talent said they’ve never seen anything . . . Now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers. But they’re very substantial numbers. But I think you’re going to fine that they — by the way, a little information — I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new, and they don’t have seals, and there’s a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt.

And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal — it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery, and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen, and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, this is — it’s a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. A lot of people think it wasn’t a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it’s a big problem in Georgia, and it’s not a problem that’s going away. I mean, you know, it’s not a problem that’s going away.

Germany: This is Ryan. We’re looking into every one of those things that you mentioned.

Trump: Good. But if you find it, you’ve got to say it, Ryan.

Germany: . . . Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we’re seeing is not at all what you’re describing. These are investigators from our office, these are investigators from GBI, and they’re looking, and they’re good. And that’s not what they’re seeing. And we’ll keep looking, at all these things.

Trump: Well, you better check on the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I’m just telling you, Ryan. They’re shredding ballots. And you should look at that very carefully. Because that’s so illegal. You know, you may not even believe it because it’s so bad. But they’re shredding ballots because they think we’re going to eventually get there . . . because we’ll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion, it’s never too late. . . . So, that’s the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have are far more than that as it stands now. We’ll have more and more. And . . . do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?

Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are allowed by state law.

Trump: Sure, but I mean, are they counted, or did you just hold them back because they, you know, in other words, how many provisional ballots do you have in the state?

Raffensperger: We’ll get you that number.

Trump: Because most of them are made out to the name Trump. Because these are people that were scammed when they came in. And we have thousands of people that have testified or that want to testify. When they came in, they were proudly going to vote on November 3. And they were told, “I’m sorry, you’ve already been voted for, you’ve already voted.” The women, men started screaming, “No. I proudly voted till November 3.” They said, “I’m sorry, but you’ve already been voted for, and you have a ballot.” And these people are beside themselves. So they went out, and they filled in a provisional ballot, putting the name Trump on it.

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in, I think it was to Fulton County, and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump — for Biden — even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?

Mitchell: I know about it, but —

Trump: Okay, Cleta, I’m not asking you, Cleta, honestly. I’m asking Brad. Do you know about the military ballots that we have confirmed now. Do you know about the military ballots that came in that were 100 percent, I mean 100 percent, for Biden. Do you know about that?

Germany: I don’t know about that. I do know that we have, when military ballots come in, it’s not just military, it’s also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. This was a mix of ’em.

Trump: No, but this was. That’s okay. But I got like 78 percent of the military. These ballots were all for . . . They didn’t tell me overseas. Could be overseas, too, but I get votes overseas, too, Ryan, in all fairness. No they came in, a large batch came in, and it was, quote, 100 percent for Biden. And that is criminal. You know, that’s criminal. Okay. That’s another criminal, that’s another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.

I don’t know, look, Brad. I got to get . . . I have to find 12,000 votes, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That’s before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now. You know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality.

But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that.

I just, I just don’t know why you don’t want to have the votes counted as they are. Like even you when you went and did that check. And I was surprised because, you know . . . And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way that check was done, all you’re doing, you know, recertifying existing votes and, you know, and you were given votes and you just counted them up, and you still found 3,000 that were bad. So that was sort of surprising that it came down to three or five, I don’t know. Still a lot of votes. But you have to go back to check from past years with respect to signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you’ll have hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the other county next to it.

So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that’s not fair to the voters of Georgia because they’re going to see what happened, and they’re going to see what happened. I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure. But, but [name] . . . I will take on anybody you want. And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that’s, you know, a lot of votes. And they were all to Biden, by the way, that’s the other thing we didn’t say. You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say, which was the most important. You know that every single ballot she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?

Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?

Germany: That’s not accurate, Mr. President.

Trump: Huh. What is accurate?

Germany: The numbers that we are showing are accurate.

Trump: No, about [name] . About early in the morning, Ryan. Where the woman took, you know, when the whole gang took the stuff from under the table, right? Do you know, do you know who those ballots, do you know who they were made out to, do you know who they were voting for?

Germany: No, not specifically.

Trump: Did you ever check?

Germany: We did what I described to you earlier —

Trump: No no no — did you ever check the ballots that were scanned by [name] , a known political operative, ballot? Did ever check who those votes were for?

Germany: We looked into that situation that you described.

Trump: No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I’m sure you’re a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.

But, but I’m just curious, why wouldn’t, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn’t make sense. We’re way over the 17,779, right? We’re way over that number, and just if you took just [name] , we’re over that number by five, five or six times when you multiply that times three.

And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn’t know that, but now you know it. So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don’t want to find answers. For instance, I’m hearing Ryan that he’s probably, I’m sure a great lawyer and everything, but he’s making statements about those ballots that he doesn’t know. But he’s making them with such — he did make them with surety. But now I think he’s less sure because the answer is, they all went to Biden, and that alone wins us the election by a lot. You know, so.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information, and we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court, and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

Trump: Why do you say that, though? I don’t know. I mean, sure, we can play this game with the courts, but why do you say that? First of all, they don’t even assign us a judge. They don’t even assign us a judge. But why wouldn’t you . . . Hey Brad, why wouldn’t you want to check out [name] ? And why wouldn’t you want to say, hey, if in fact, President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, just that one incident alone without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots. You just say, you stick by, I mean I’ve been watching you, you know, you don’t care about anything. “Your numbers are right.” But your numbers aren’t right. They’re really wrong, and they’re really wrong, Brad. And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than, other than ultimately, you know — Look, ultimately, I win, okay? Because you guys are so wrong. And you treated this. You treated the population of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who is down at 21, he was down 21 points. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he got elected, but I will tell you, he is a disaster.

The people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again, I’ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? ’Cause those numbers are so wrong?

Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, one of the things that we have been, Alex can talk about this, we talked about it, and I don’t know whether the information has been conveyed to your office, but I think what the president is saying, and what we’ve been trying to do is to say, look, the court is not acting on our petition. They haven’t even assigned a judge. But the people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don’t have access to.

And you can keep telling us and making public statement that you investigated this and nothing to see here. But we don’t know about that. All we know is what you tell us. What I don’t understand is why wouldn’t it be in everyone’s best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers, you know, if you say, because . . . to try to be able to get to the truth because we don’t have any way of confirm‎ing what you’re telling us. You tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don’t have any report. I’ve never seen a report of investigation. I don’t know that is. I’ve been pretty involved in this, and I don’t know. And that’s just one of 25 categories. And it doesn’t even. And as I, as the president said, we haven’t even gotten into the Dominion issue. That’s not part of our case. It’s not part of, we just didn’t feel as though we had any to be able to develop —

Trump: No, we do have a way, but I don’t want to get into it. We found a way . . . excuse me, but we don’t need it because we’re only down 11,000 votes, so we don’t even need it. I personally think they’re corrupt as hell. But we don’t need that. All we have to do, Cleta, is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don’t need that. I’m not looking to shake up the whole world. We won Georgia easily. We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But if you go by basic, simple numbers, we won it easily, easily. So we’re not giving Dominion a pass on the record. We don’t need Dominion because we have so many other votes that we don’t need to prove it any more than we already have.

Hilbert: Mr. President and Cleta, this is Kurt Hilbert, if I might interject for a moment. Ryan, I would like to suggest that just four categories that have already been mentioned by the president that have actually hard numbers of 24,149 votes that were counted illegally. That in and of itself is sufficient to change the results or place the outcome in doubt. We would like to sit down with your office, and we can do it through purposes of compromise and just like this phone call, just to deal with that limited category of votes. And if you are able to establish that our numbers are not accurate, then fine. However, we believe that they are accurate. We’ve had now three to four separate experts looking at these numbers.

Trump: Certified accountants looked at them.

Hilbert: Correct. And this is just based on USPS data and your own secretary of state data. So that’s what we would entreat and ask you to do, to sit down with us in a compromise and settlements proceeding and actually go through the registered voter IDs and the registrations. And if you can convince us that 24,149 is inaccurate, then fine. But we tend to believe that is, you know, obviously more than 11,779. That’s sufficient to change the results entirely in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?

Germany: I’m happy to get with our lawyers, and we’ll set that up. That number is not accurate. And I think we can show you, for all the ones we’ve looked at, why it’s not. And so if that would be helpful, I’m happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.

Trump: Well, let me ask you, Kurt, you think that is an accurate number. That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state’s department, right?

Hilbert: That is correct. That information is the minimum, most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state’s office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. Yet we have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to . . . several times requesting this information, and it’s been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming, there’s something to hide. That’s the problem that we have.

Germany: Well, that’s not the case, sir. There are things that you guys are entitled to get. And there’s things that under law, we are not allowed to give out.

Trump: Well, you have to. Well, under law, you’re not allowed to give faulty election results, okay? You’re not allowed to do that. And that’s what you done. This is a faulty election result. And honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up, and because of what you’ve done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam — and because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they’re going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And I think that it is really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. Because I know, Brad, that if you think we’re right, I think you’re going to say, and I’m not looking to blame anybody, I’m just saying, you know, and, you know, under new counts, and under new views, of the election results, we won the election. You know? It’s very simple. We won the election. As the governors of major states and the surrounding states said, there is no way you lost Georgia. As the Georgia politicians say, there is no way you lost Georgia. Nobody. Everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I’ll tell you it’s going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don’t get this thing straightened out fast.

Meadows: Mr. President, this is Mark. It sounds like we’ve got two different sides agreeing that we can look at those areas, and I assume that we can do that within the next 24 to 48 hours, to go ahead and get that reconciled so that we can look at the two claims and making sure that we get the access to the secretary of state’s data to either validate or invalidate the claims that have been made. Is that correct?

Germany: No, that’s not what I said. I’m happy to have our lawyers sit down with Kurt and the lawyers on that side and explain to him, hey, here’s, based on what we’ve looked at so far, here’s how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

Meadows: So what you’re saying, Ryan, let me let me make sure . . . so what you’re saying is you really don’t want to give access to the data. You just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong?

Germany: I don’t think we can give access to data that’s protected by law. But we can sit down with them and say —

Trump: But you’re allowed to have a phony election? You’re allowed to have a phony election, right?

Germany: No, sir.

Trump: When are you going to do signature counts, when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you said you were going to do, and now all of a sudden, you’re not doing it. When are you doing that?

Germany: We are going to do that. We’ve announced —

Hilbert: To get to this issue of the personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers for the president so that we could access that information and private information without you having any kind of violation?

Trump: Well, I don’t want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That’s okay. I don’t need to know names. But on this stuff that we’re talking about, we got all that information from the secretary of state.

Meadows: Yeah. So let me let me recommend, Ryan, if you and Kurt will get together, you know, when we get off of this phone call, if you could get together and work out a plan to address some of what we’ve got with your attorneys where we can we can actually look at the data. For example, Mr. Secretary, I can you say they were only two dead people who would vote. I can promise you there are more than that. And that may be what your investigation shows, but I can promise you there are more than that. But at the same time, I think it’s important that we go ahead and move expeditiously to try to do this and resolve it as quickly as we possibly can. And if that’s the good next step. Hopefully we can, we can finish this phone call and go ahead and agree that the two of you will get together immediately.

Trump: Well, why don’t my lawyers show you where you got the information. It will show the secretary of state, and you don’t even have to look at any names. We don’t want names. We don’t care. But we got that information from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you. She’s going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you. And I only ran against her once. And that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I beat her. And if I didn’t run, Brian wouldn’t have had even a shot, either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that’s the way it is. That’s the way it is. I would like you . . . for the attorneys . . . I’d like you to perhaps meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the election. Otherwise you’re going to have people just not voting. They don’t want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. The only people that like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that, Brad, right? They like you, you know, they like you. They can’t believe what they found. They want more people like you. So, look, can you get together tomorrow? And, Brad, we just want the truth. It’s simple.

And everyone’s going to look very good if the truth comes out. It’s okay. It takes a little while, but let the truth come out. And the real truth is, I won by 400,000 votes. At least. That’s the real truth. But we don’t need 400,000 votes. We need less than 2,000 votes. And are you guys able to meet tomorrow, Ryan?

Germany: I’ll get with Chris, the lawyer who’s representing us in the case, and see when he can get together with Kurt.

Raffensperger: Ryan will be in touch with the other attorney on this call, Mr. Meadows. Thank you, President Trump, for your time.

Trump: Okay, thank you, Brad. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. Bye.

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